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#1 Hapo

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 08:48

I just bought the Hadley Page bomber and right off noticed the gunner in front keeps unlinking with his machine guns, looking like a kid playing make believe much of the time. Considering one's position in the cockpit relative to the gunner, it is a pretty in your face sort of thing. Speaking of faces, the gunner also seems to spend a lot off time shooting the piolet in the face...

 

This bird will be spending a lot of time in the hanger, methinks.


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Posted 07 February 2017 - 13:26

I just bought the Hadley Page bomber and right off noticed the gunner in front keeps unlinking with his machine guns, looking like a kid playing make believe much of the time. Considering one's position in the cockpit relative to the gunner, it is a pretty in your face sort of thing. Speaking of faces, the gunner also seems to spend a lot off time shooting the piolet in the face...

 

This bird will be spending a lot of time in the hanger, methinks.

Did this happen in Multiplayer, if so, methinks you had a "human gunner". ;)  


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#3 Panthercules

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 16:17

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Maybe if you could post a track of what you are seeing, it would help.  I haven't flown the HP-400 lately, but I don't remember seeing anything all that weird about the gunner when I did.  If I remember maybe I can take one for a spin tonight when I get back from work and see how mine works.


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#4 jollyjack

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Posted 10 January 2020 - 20:35

I just bought the Hadley Page bomber and right off noticed the gunner in front keeps unlinking with his machine guns, looking like a kid playing make believe much of the time. Considering one's position in the cockpit relative to the gunner, it is a pretty in your face sort of thing. Speaking of faces, the gunner also seems to spend a lot off time shooting the piolet in the face...

 

This bird will be spending a lot of time in the hanger, methinks.

 

I like the Hadley, but whatever settings i tried, the gunner stays stuck on his ass, whatever range you set, and does not shoot at the boogiemen closing in ...

It sucks that they sell the plane without telling you that it's buggy. I wouldn't have bought it then.


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#5 Panthercules

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Posted 10 January 2020 - 21:17

I like the Hadley, but whatever settings i tried, the gunner stays stuck on his ass, whatever range you set, and does not shoot at the boogiemen closing in ...

It sucks that they sell the plane without telling you that it's buggy. I wouldn't have bought it then.

 

I just took my HP for a spin in the QMB, and both front and rear gunners did just fine.  Are you sure that (1) you're not running some old/outdated version of AI/gunner mod, or (2) your gunner isn't just out of ammo or dead?


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Posted 11 January 2020 - 15:28

i must check that mod business .... it's kind of messy now and hard to get right ...

 

PS have you got some info on which mods are OK; some improved graphics like textures quite a bit ... and some mods (installed via JSGME) i could not revert back as they were greyed out.

Meanwhile i reinstalled RoF, and will check the HP later tonight.


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#7 Panthercules

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Posted 11 January 2020 - 15:57

i must check that mod business .... it's kind of messy now and hard to get right ...

PS have you got some info on which mods are OK, some improved graphics like textures quite a bit ...

 

You can check out the mods on my favorites list - last time I checked they were all working (unless specifically noted otherwise on that page):

 

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#8 Dutch2

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Posted 11 January 2020 - 17:55

If he is using that canon mod for the frontgunner, the AI gunner is also not been used. That mod can only used manually.
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Posted 11 January 2020 - 18:50

If he is using that canon mod for the frontgunner, the AI gunner is also not been used. That mod can only used manually.

 

Which mod is that? Rof refined 1.02_Ai gunners (gavagai)? I think i had & that explains a lot ... i was using panthercules mod list earlier, better stick to that, and probably this mod too from somewhere else ....

 

Reinstalled the Panterculeslisted  mods, but quite some are greyed out. --- And the HP gunner is still not shooting back, set to range 8 (normal). BUT ONLY in this loaded mission, in a quick mission the gunner shoots !.

 

So i guess it's in the plane settings in that particular mission, set from within the mission editor's plane settings .....

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Posted 11 January 2020 - 20:51

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#11 jollyjack

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Posted 12 January 2020 - 03:29

yep, bought it already, mods too ... a nice one, but once you loose too much height and speed fully loaded a hard one to keep from crashing.

 

The mod version works Ai gunning but in a Quick mission, as Pantercules mentioned. But not in 'my mission' funny enough.


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#12 Panthercules

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Posted 12 January 2020 - 04:30

Which mod is that? Rof refined 1.02_Ai gunners (gavagai)? I think i had & that explains a lot ... i was using panthercules mod list earlier, better stick to that, and probably this mod too from somewhere else ....

 

Reinstalled the Panterculeslisted  mods, but quite some are greyed out. --- And the HP gunner is still not shooting back, set to range 8 (normal). BUT ONLY in this loaded mission, in a quick mission the gunner shoots !.

 

So i guess it's in the plane settings in that particular mission, set from within the mission editor's plane settings .....

 

 

Not sure exactly which mission you're running that has the gunner problem, but I can tell you a little about why so many of the mods in your list are grayed out.  Several of those are intended to be alternatives, i.e., you are supposed to choose to install only one version at a time, but not both/all at the same time (e.g., choose either B&W or color cinema loading screens, but not both, and choose only one of the rate of fire mods for the specific time frame you're flying in, not all of them at once).


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Posted 20 January 2020 - 18:49

reinstalled and used your recommended mods only, seems the issue is fixed ...
sorry not answering earlier, been again diving into IL2's mission editor.

one Q: i saw a post elsewhere from you with campaigns, especially SP missions ... some links work, but most old ones are dead.
There was a SP set from Vander which i'd like to try if possible; do you still have it?
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#14 Panthercules

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Posted 20 January 2020 - 19:41

reinstalled and used your recommended mods only, seems the issue is fixed ...
sorry not answering earlier, been again diving into IL2's mission editor.

one Q: i saw a post elsewhere from you with campaigns, especially SP missions ... some links work, but most old ones are dead.
There was a SP set from Vander which i'd like to try if possible; do you still have it?

 

If you can post a link to the post you saw with the broken links I can try to see if I can fix those.  They broke a lot of links when they changed to new forum software a few years back - I've been able to fix many of them but some just can't be fixed, unfortunately.


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