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#1 SiegDerMaus

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 02:43

So, I spent money on ROF, but it is completely unplayable for me, thanks to my graphics card. I am saving for a new computer, but it will take time, and I'd like to play ROF in that time. I've narrowed it down to clouds and smoke that seems to be causing my problems (also the motion effects for radial engines turning). If a kind modder could make a mod to remove or reduce the intensity of these effects so the game would be playable for me, that would be lovely. I don't want it to look pretty, just be playable. Thanks in advance!


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Posted 18 February 2016 - 03:32

Try turning all your graphics settings down / minimum, in the launcher. What are your machine specs ? With that info listed here, I'm sure you will get some good advise. :icon_e_salute:  


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#3 SiegDerMaus

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 04:43

Thank you for your prompt reply! My GPU is an Intel HD 4000 (I know, I know). As for my graphics settings, they are at minimum already. Also, I love your avatar, Get Smart is one of my favourite shows!


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#4 Panthercules

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Posted 19 February 2016 - 01:09

There is already a mod that may do some of the things you want. It's Steppenwolf's Battlesmoke and Effects Textures mod and there's a link to it on my favorite mods page:

 

http://riseofflight....-favorite-mods/


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#5 SiegDerMaus

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Posted 19 February 2016 - 04:40

I still get the freezing and GPU overheating with the mod enabled. Is there a .cfg or .ini file in that mod that would allow me to alter the quality of the clouds and smoke?


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Posted 19 February 2016 - 06:36

I still get the freezing and GPU overheating with the mod enabled. Is there a .cfg or .ini file in that mod that would allow me to alter the quality of the clouds and smoke?

 

You just need to look in the mod folders - there should be some files there that can be opened with notepad and edited.  

 

Beware, however, that for textures and so on you cannot just type in any old number, it has to be some multiple the program understands. (Do not ask me - I am already neck deep here).


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#7 SiegDerMaus

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Posted 19 February 2016 - 06:43

There does not appear to be one within the mod, sadly. 


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Posted 19 February 2016 - 07:21

Oh yes there is.

 

Battlesmokes and effects/data/graphics/landscape has an ini file you can open with notepad. Given that it has variables for particles, height etc it might help to cut down the load. (And you are right, smoke and plane exhaust are big FPS killers in RoF).

 

I have no idea what it will do, but you could play with those variables - make them very low but > zero, see if they have any effect.


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#9 SiegDerMaus

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Posted 19 February 2016 - 07:45

That seems to deal only with the smoke added by the mod though, doesn't it?


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Posted 19 February 2016 - 10:14

No , I the normal way these things work is that anything in a mod overwrites the default settings, which are in the compiled form we cannot get at. My recollection of that mod is that it was designed to deal with the haze over no mans' land in particular, which certainly caused me problems with fps at least with my older PCs. 

 

Have you tried it? Do not forget you must be in Mods on mode set in the Settings.exe


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#11 SiegDerMaus

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Posted 19 February 2016 - 22:54

Setting them to significantly lower values seemed to have no effects on my graphics problems. Thanks for you help anyway, though!


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#12 Panthercules

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Posted 20 February 2016 - 02:02

Hmm - I took a look inside that mod and it does seem like it deals only with the front line battle smoke after all.  I thought it also dealt with the aircraft exhaust, but that might have been a different mod that I don't use - I'll have to keep searching and see if I can dig up a reference to that other mod.


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Posted 20 February 2016 - 02:04

OK - a quick search uncovered this old thread, about a mod that removed the exhaust smoke from aircraft and did result in a small performance increase in my testing:

 

http://riseofflight....ust#entry532817

 

Might be worth a try.

 

Some links in that old thread are broken by the forum platform switch - I'll try to get them fixed.


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Posted 20 February 2016 - 02:38

The download file I found in the old threads looked like it was opening up with the wrong encoding, so I re-encoded/resaved it in UTF-8, put it in a JSGME-ready mod package, and tested it out in current RoF version (1.037).  It appears to work fine - at least, the exhaust smoke was gone.  Didn't have time or the software running to actually test the FPS impact, but based on the tests done a few years ago I would expect it to yield about a 5-10% improvement, but that might be hardware dependent so your best bet is to just try it and see if it helps.

 

My JSGME-ready package of MattM's mod is available here:  http://www.mediafire...l_for_JSGME.zip


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Posted 20 February 2016 - 03:57

Thank you very much! I'll give it a try! Though I'm not sure FPS is the issue, my FPS seems to be fine. The problem I am experiencing is that every 30 seconds or so, the screen goes black and a get a message in the system tray that the display driver stopped responding and has recovered. This still may help, though! I'll let you know the results. Thanks again!


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#16 SiegDerMaus

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Posted 20 February 2016 - 04:09

I can't tell if it helped. The issue is still there, but it seems to be lessened.


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Posted 20 February 2016 - 12:07

Thank you very much! I'll give it a try! Though I'm not sure FPS is the issue, my FPS seems to be fine. The problem I am experiencing is that every 30 seconds or so, the screen goes black and a get a message in the system tray that the display driver stopped responding and has recovered. This still may help, though! I'll let you know the results. Thanks again!

 

Argh! Maybe you might have mentioned that at the beginning? Sounds like you either do not have a strong enough graphics card or your drivers are out of date, but I admit I am out of my depth on technical details.

 

You might just try copy/pasting the content of your error message into google and see if it can tell you more about the nature of the issue.


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Posted 20 February 2016 - 18:31

Oh, I'm a computer science major, I have a pretty good idea of what is up. The usual cause is that the graphics card is overloaded. I could in theory change the TdrDelay value in the registry to increase the timeout delay, but that could potentially lead to system crashes rather than display driver crashes. That is why I have been thinking I could fix it by reducing the load on the GPU by removing some of those complex particles. 


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Posted 20 February 2016 - 20:49

     I put forth the idea that since ROF can be played (displayed) in various sizes, you could reduce the load on your cpu and video card by selecting a smaller display size.

 

http://riseofflight....-frames-second/

 

    The idea being that the smaller the display size, the smaller the number of pixels to be processed and the less of a load to process. Most people stated I was wrong without actually trying to reduce their screen resolution because common knowledge said I was wrong and the herd knows best. Surprise!

 

    Anyway, reducing the number of pixels to be processed improved my frame rate and as I said in the earlier post, it is easy to return to your original graphics settings.

 

http://riseofflight....k-side-stripes/

 

     The above posts discusses how to avoid a letterbox display.


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Posted 20 February 2016 - 21:11

I will try that as well, thanks!
 


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#21 SiegDerMaus

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Posted 21 February 2016 - 22:28

It doesn't seem to help much. Thanks for trying to help, though!


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