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Yet Another Side Project

Started by RAF74_Winger , Jan 20 2014 02:08

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#1 RAF74_Winger

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 02:08

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Been working on this off and on for the last few weeks. I thought we could do with a locomotive which was more appropriate for the English side of the channel. A few more tweaks required and then I'm starting with the UV Mapping and animations.

SECR-H.jpg 86.19KB 966 downloads

Here's the real thing:

h_vic_sp_johns_31oct13h.jpg 220.98KB 966 downloads

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#2 Demon_

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 02:33

Wow! Nice Tchou! Tchou! Thanks for the job. 8-)

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#3 =Fifi=

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 02:38

Very cool to have more locomotive choice!

Were the German different from French ones?

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#4 J2_Adam

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LocationVancouver, BC

Posted 20 January 2014 - 02:39

That's funny… I was just thinking about this. There was a post a loooong time ago about how RoF should have more appropriate trains for the period. With all the new objects coming out made by members, it seems like a good time to have new trains.

Looking good.

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#5 B24_LIBERATOR

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LocationSan Diego

Posted 20 January 2014 - 05:27

Yep there was

Realistic rail traffic

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#6 RAF74_Winger

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 05:33

Very cool to have more locomotive choice!

Were the German different from French ones?

That's a very good question. In fact the G8.1 locomotives we have in game were used in France. Unfortunately, from a historical correctness perspective, these locomotives were used in Alsace-Lorraine, which was ceded to Germany under the terms of the Treaty of Frankfurt in 1871. The territory was returned to France after the end of the first world war.

A more appropriate locomotive for France would be this one:

140-C-231-a.jpg 1.76MB 927 downloads

If anyone has a decent set of drawings for the 140C, I might be tempted to have a go.

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#7 Genius

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 22:53

Good news !

For the 140 C, i've found this

I don't know if you will found some info here: www.tassignon.be/trains/documentation/documentation.php

Good luck for animation of the wheel drive

Genius

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#8 SYN_Vander

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 06:51

Looking good! Will be nice to see some new trains. Don't worry, we can work out that animation

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#9 LordNeuro_Srb

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LocationNovi Sad/Serbia

Posted 21 January 2014 - 07:41

Gr8 stuff. And here is somthing from Foobar in bos forum. To bad it is in 3d max 2009 and rof suports only 2008 ver. I hope there will be same fix so we could see thise nice addons in rof. Check it here

http://forum.il2stur...jects-graphics/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://forum.il2stur...k.com/topic/376 … -graphics/

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#10 RAF74_Winger

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 04:38

Looking good! Will be nice to see some new trains. Don't worry, we can work out that animation

Glad you said that. Just one question, does ROF support wired parameters, or will I have to set up event controllers for each item?

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#11 SeaW0lf

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 06:20

Very nice!

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"There will be honor enough for us all."

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#12 =Fifi=

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 07:44

That's good news if you can model an authentic French loco!
So we could keep the actual one for German side, of what you said…

Thinking a bit further, maybe an armoured train could be modelisable?
Think about those targets laying on rails near the front line, even stopped!

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#13 Branwell

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 12:14

That's good news if you can model an authentic French loco!
So we could keep the actual one for German side, of what you said…

Thinking a bit further, maybe an armoured train could be modelisable?
Think about those targets laying on rails near the front line, even stopped!

Already being worked on Fifi: Heavy Artillery - Big guns

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#14 Genius

Posts: 587

Posted 26 January 2014 - 23:31

Looking good! Will be nice to see some new trains. Don't worry, we can work out that animation

Glad you said that. Just one question, does ROF support wired parameters, or will I have to set up event controllers for each item?

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Hi, you can use parent object to move all children object with the parent.

I have made this, this tutorial if i can help you. : riseofflight.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=393&t=39747&p=576840#p576840

How many poly do you have ? To save polygons, you can use square face, see post #29 here riseofflight.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?p=566668#p566668

Bye
Genius

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#15 RAF74_Winger

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 00:03

Thanks for the tutorial, very useful, I missed it before. I wonder if some friendly moderator could grab all of these tutorials in various places and put them in a sticky thread somewhere.

The poly count isn't too high right now, ~4250 triangles, but I will be replacing the ends of the buffers and wheels with square planes to reduce that still further. I left them in for the picture so everyone could see something close to the finished shape.

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#16 RAF74_Winger

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Posted 02 February 2014 - 02:46

UV Mapping Complete after a couple of false starts

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UVMap.png 50.73KB 389 downloads

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#17 Genius

Posts: 587

Posted 05 February 2014 - 23:10

Hi,

Good progress.

For info, it's better to share the texture file for user memory. Maybe you can make a bigger texture file with free space to share for other future project or, better, use current texture files (for exemple files ungtp data/graphics/train/g8/textures, the current g8 texture have 512x512 original size and 1028x1028 on high res. mod).

Bye
Genius

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#18 NewGuy_

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 01:40

That is going to be one sweet locomotive! :S!:

MJ

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Something something SPAD. Something something then dive away.

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#19 RAF74_Winger

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 06:12

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Hope someone can help me here: I'm into the skin painting phase and having a devil of a job getting the specularity to work. I can cut holes using alpha with no problem, but the specularity ranges given in the skinning guide are just not working for me. Whatever I do, I end up with a skin which is matte all over. I've used 'specular' as the material as directed in the buildings/blocks SDK.

I'm using Gimp 2.8 with the very latest DDS converter which is recommended here: riseofflight.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=112&t=37740. DXTBmp is a complete lost cause as far as I can see, not only not working to cut holes, but also giving compression artefacts. Importing the skin into PS CS2 reveals no obvious errors.

I looked back at SYN_Vander's ships SDK, and the models, but I notice there is no specularity there either. Should I use the bumpchrome material instead?

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#20 Genius

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 22:44

Hi,

Wich compression format do you use on gimp export dds ? BC3 / DXT5 ? Do you use the correct plugin for your system (32/64 bits) ?

No problem to cut holes with this compression format.

but the specularity ranges given in the skinning guide are just not working for me.

Do you have link ? , i don't understand. Do you want to adjust the reflectivity or the transparency ?

Bye

Genius

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#21 RAF74_Winger

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 02:58

The skinning guide is included with all the aircraft skin templates, so you can download one of those and see. I'm exporting as BC3/DXT5 which is correct as far as I know and has worked for aircraft skins in the past.

Transparency is not a problem, I can cut holes just fine. The reflectivity is the problem.

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