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#201 Korontari

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 20:57

Come on guys, they are developing another flight sim under a deadline. Cut them some slack if they aren't making the time to evaluate a 3rd party model, which we don't have a front to fly it over anyways, at least not quite yet… 8-)

That's true. Let them take their time.


Air warfare during the Civil War was interesting.Russians from both sides seems to have used from the early war planes till the late ones,from all nationalities,even italian ones!

From what I know the air warfare during Civil War was much less intensive than at WWI on any front and aircombats were occasional. But there was a wide range of aircraft types used by both sides and at times you can find pretty exotic appliances like these river barges used as flying boat carriers:

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#202 Dietz

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 22:00

So is this any closer to happening?
A late comer to this post…
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#203 Bf-110

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 00:33

For a while,I guess not,but the Ilya Mourumetz will be added on RoF for sure when the russian front is released.It seems to be a popular plane and it did see combat during all the war.
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#204 LukeFF

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 03:02

For a while,I guess not,but the Ilya Mourumetz will be added on RoF for sure when the russian front is released.

If there will be a Russian Front. Don't post stuff that sounds like it's a sure thing.
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#205 ArgonV

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 04:59

Looks like your efforts were not in vain! :D

http://forum.il2stur...im-development/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://forum.il2stur...k.com/topic/719 … velopment/
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#206 Stackenblocker

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 11:02

one Idea:

the new product should include a "museum functionality" ie: a pre-set mission reloadable with on touch of a button to run on public exibition machines. Many museums now look for interative exibitionpieces and making the licence cheap/free to them if they sell the product in the museums store might bring quite some customers.
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#207 HotleadColdfeet

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 13:01

one Idea:

the new product should include a "museum functionality" ie: a pre-set mission reloadable with on touch of a button to run on public exibition machines. Many museums now look for interative exibitionpieces and making the licence cheap/free to them if they sell the product in the museums store might bring quite some customers.
Now that's an Awesome Idea.
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#208 Rover_27

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 14:57

Excellent idea indeed!
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#209 Dr.Zebra

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 16:39

Thank you! Yep, building Staaken would be my creazy dream. )) But… One have to be realistic to build a model and not to give it up halfway. Staaken is a very cool bird. But I found very few references on her interiors. While on Muromets Type Veh you can be well with 2-3 player positions (pilot, top wing gunner and may be rear door position) on Staaken R.VI there is a complex flight deck, nose gunner, central gunner positions and 2 engine nacelle positions with wing gun mounts. To make all these with proper attention to details one need to find tons of references not to mention the work amount. I do not dare. ))


Why is the most produced Zepplin-Staaken also the ugliest??

I wouldn't say that. The R.VI has its charm. There is something from art-deco style in her shape and covered with night Lozenge camouflage she looks pretty cool!

I take it, you have seen this: ?
http://www.filmporta...ken-bei-spandau" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.filmporta.../video/riesenfl … ei-spandau

also, parts are preserverd in Krakow
http://www.wwi-model...nRVI/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.wwi-model...g/Photos/Ger/ZS … index.html

and there are lots of references here, that have interior images..
http://flyingmachine.../Craft25534.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://flyingmachine.../Craft25534.htm

as far as I know, there is also a replica-cabin sitting in a museum, but I forgot which one. in the literature on Alexander Bauman (the main designer) there is even more…

I´m sorry, I just loved your work on the Ilya and it is a bit of my dream since years to have an early giant plane sim ;=)
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#210 HotleadColdfeet

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 16:46

Another plane for landing stunts, eh Zebra? :D Seriously though, I'm looking forward to the Ilya with great anticipation.
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#211 Dr.Zebra

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 21:15

sure, I openly admit that to me the key question on the Ilya clearly is how good will it look after the landing ;=)
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#212 NewGuy_

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 14:39

sure, I openly admit that to me the key question on the Ilya clearly is how good will it look after the landing ;=)
Hmm, that depends on how gently you land that Nieuport 17 a top that large upper wing of the Ilya Muromets. :lol:

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Something something SPAD. Something something then dive away. 


#213 ArgonV

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Posted 19 June 2014 - 15:51

I'm really excited the Ilya made it into a sim! It's my favorite bomber of WWI. :D The first heavy bomber infact that was built for a little gem of a mod called FS-WWI I was over for quite some time.
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#214 Korontari

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 15:03

Nice to see the model is put to good use. :) Can't wait to fly this bird.

I take it, you have seen this: ?
http://www.filmporta...ken-bei-spandau" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.filmporta.../video/riesenfl … ei-spandau

also, parts are preserverd in Krakow
http://www.wwi-model...nRVI/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.wwi-model...g/Photos/Ger/ZS … index.html

and there are lots of references here, that have interior images..
http://flyingmachine.../Craft25534.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://flyingmachine.../Craft25534.htm

as far as I know, there is also a replica-cabin sitting in a museum, but I forgot which one. in the literature on Alexander Bauman (the main designer) there is even more…

I´m sorry, I just loved your work on the Ilya and it is a bit of my dream since years to have an early giant plane sim ;=)

Thank you for the links! I am familiar with the latter two but the video is new to me and I enjoyed it very much! There is also a pretty good windsock datafile on R VI but one still needs more info to build an RoF quality model.
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#215 Dr.Zebra

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 16:53

the archive of Zeppelin-Staaken is accessible now for researchers through the Zeppelin Museum in Friedrichshafen.. I think they could help with the plans.

they used to have a nice detailed 1:6 model and are overall worth a visist

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#216 Bf-110

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 03:57

Can't wait to fly it.I got hooked by the Ilya Mourumets since I saw it on na old book 10 years ago.
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#217 ArgonV

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 02:07

Korontari, the model is beautiful! Just got done flying her in-game. :D Well done!!!
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#218 JimmyBlonde

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 02:12

sure, I openly admit that to me the key question on the Ilya clearly is how good will it look after the landing ;=)

They're going to have to make a bigger balloon for you in order to answer this question.
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#219 Bf-110

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 02:56

sure, I openly admit that to me the key question on the Ilya clearly is how good will it look after the landing ;=)

They're going to have to make a bigger balloon for you in order to answer this question.

Zeppelins?
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#220 SYN_Bandy

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 16:55

I take it, you have seen this: ?
http://www.filmporta...ken-bei-spandau" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.filmporta.../video/riesenfl … ei-spandau
I kept waiting for the sound to come on… :oops:

"fahrt zum start" Sure, but the part where they actually get the engines started is missing!
I want to know whether men stood on ladders to back the prop to suck in petrol, then spin it… :)

Ah! at 2:30 it appears they have a crank or starter motor…

It sure is comical to see all those men enter the plane's 'vagina' and they come popping up in other various orifices. Then one guy steps out (to go for a leak presumably…) and the buggers take off on him! :lol:
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#221 SYN_Bandy

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 17:11

Well, it doesn't go at all. A long while ago I sent the model to the team for evaluation but no responce so far despite occational remindings from me. The guys seem to be overwhelmingly busy.
Come on guys, they are developing another flight sim under a deadline. Cut them some slack if they aren't making the time to evaluate a 3rd party model, which we don't have a front to fly it over anyways, at least not quite yet… 8-)

That's the trouble with you youngsters, no patience :D
And a year later and I'm eating crow… :o

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