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#1 1PL-Lucas-1Esk

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 19:14

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I was asked by Karma-Police to create a paintscheme of one of the SPA.156 pilots, adj. Leon van den Bosche. He sent me a reference data together with some picture what greatly helped me with the skin. This is a De Marcay - built SPAD 7, but again, I did not want to change the original panel lines, as those S.7's had camera access doors and camera lens's hole at the bottom of the fuselage.

While working on this one, I decided to create a default SPA.156 which can be helpful for the Career mode or just for some missions.
Escadrille 156 was created on January, 1st, 1918 as N156.
It was initially fully equiped with the classic Nieuport triumvirate: N.24, N.24bis and N.27.
In Frebruary 1918 escadrille 156 replaced its outdated Nieuport for modern but quite troublesome Morane Saulnier AI thus becoming MS156.
Finally in May 1918 the unit abandoned Morane Saulnier and acquired SPAD VII and still had some Nieuport 27 in strenght.
Escadrille 156 had a full complement of SPAD XIII while serving in Groupe de Combat 16 also in May 1918.

Escadrille 156 unit isignia was choosen by capitaine Paumier (the first CO of the unit). It represent two birds playing in the air. Paumier was inspired by a Japanese drawing.

Escadrille 156 spend all the war at Melette, a small twon near Châlon-en-Champagne.
The unit won 3 confirmed victories during World War One.

Source: Les escadrilles de l'Aéronautique Militaire française, Symbolique et histoire, 1912-1920.

Update 12.09.20011. Uploaded revised skin, added unit's history written by Karma-Police.

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#2 jeanba4

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 19:22

Very nice
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#3 NewGuy_

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 20:25

Real nice and yes! :S!: MJ
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Something something SPAD. Something something then dive away. 


#4 =Fifi=

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 20:41

Spads = YES! :lol:
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#5 FlyingShark

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 20:43

Indeed, Yes.

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#6 =Fifi=

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 22:37

Are you sure about the camouflage?

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"…is finished in one of the four color camouflage scheme…"

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#7 nbryant

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 23:19

The de marcay camo scheme is shown differently here……….

http://www.google.co...iw=1174&bih=922" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.google.co...gres?q=de marca … 74&bih=922
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#8 nbryant

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 23:22

FiFi, where do you pull your resources from?
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#9 1PL-Lucas-1Esk

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 06:05

From the font, it looks like it was taken from the Windsock Datafile.
Thanks, Fifi! I can see that the De Marcay had couple of different cammo patterns.
I have two drawings of Polish S.7's built by that company and each one has slightly different pattern, too.

Great that you find that drawing by Bob Pearson. Once I will be back from the weekend, I will repaint the scheme and reuploaded it. Thanks!
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#10 =Fifi=

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 07:38

Yes, it was in Spad VII Data Files ;)
I'm sure you gonna make it superb anyway!
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#11 nbryant

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:12

I have a number of the osprey books and other references, guess it's time to begin sourcing the windsock data files.
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#12 Karma-Police

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:33

I didn't knwo that this plane is also pictured in Windsock Datafile :?

The type of De Marçay camouflage is quite difficult to distinguish on the photo so I told Lucas to use the pattern he already had. ;)
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#13 =Fifi=

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 19:35

I would say this plane was all beige, but not 100% sure.
Only very few VII had the four color camo imo.
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#14 Karma-Police

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 21:49

I would say this plane was all beige, but not 100% sure.
Only very few VII had the four color camo imo.

Impossible, all De Marçay-built SPADs were camouflaged.
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#15 =Fifi=

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 22:12

Ok about De Marçay camouflage, but if so, we should see it quite clearly on the Data File picture…and i can't see any demarcation lines :?
Also in the text, it's quoted "one of the four color camo", that's why i suspect it was the beige color in regard of the old black and white cliché. But that's only my guess…

If you want to paint it with De Marçay camo, here is what i found in Data Files for Spa 156:

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EDIT: same plane De Marçay camo profile:

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#16 =Fifi=

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 20:23

As for Greg Spad VII Roger Guillaumot, are you sure for the top wing number?
I'm still sceptic :?
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#17 1PL-Lucas-1Esk

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 22:13

No, that was my guessing, Fifi.
I can remove it, no problem at all.
Tomorrow I will rework the plane. Thank you very much for all your opinions, suggestions and a good reference data!
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#18 =Fifi=

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 23:43

I can remove it, no problem at all.

Yes i know! But i'm still searching about those french top wing numbers, and i can't find any faithful clue :(

Don't get me wrong; i didn't say "there wasn't any". I say "in my opinion, and of what i already saw and learned, it wasn't in the french use" (except Guynemer)

So don't blame me if one day we find out this plane top wing number ;)
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#19 1PL-Lucas-1Esk

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 19:06

The skin has been updated! Check the first post :)
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#20 =Fifi=

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 20:03

Thanks Lucas for taking care of top wing number :)
I really think it's more accurate now…but if one day someone find the inverse proof, i'll send you some champagne boxes! :lol: …so you'll forgive me.
Splendid skin anyway!
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#21 nbryant

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 00:08

Good stuff Lucas!
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#22 Barkhorn1x

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 00:12

Nice one.
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#23 von_Semmel

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 12:58

you got a yes :)
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 13:54

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