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#201 335th_GRSwaty

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 22:02

Some more pics:

The box:

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The push-pull switch. I use it for ignition and I like the feeling!
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And finally…

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#202 hq_Honeymonster

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 18:25

Interesting little board you've used there can you post us a link?

Looks like a nice practical little unit you have made. :)
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#203 335th_GRSwaty

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 19:17

Sure:

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The case is plastic except top panel (aluminum.
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#204 335th_GRSwaty

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 22:22

I know it's Greek to you :D but here is the article I have wrote about it:

http://www.hotas.gr/...w/92/1/lang,el/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.hotas.gr/...w/92/1/lang,el/
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#205 Rivet

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 12:19

No one else building a button box/panel/stick/pedals? Don't be shy give it a try…

I've been thinking about this for quite some time but never quite got around to it for various reasons. I almost got going on something recently (inspired by this excellent thread). However, unexpected house repairs postponed that and now I have my sights on building myself a new PC first (it's a long story) :| .

Anyway, I always pop in now and again to check on progress. It contains very useful info and ideas and there is some very impressive kit being constructed. Hats off to you all. I'll get there in my own modest way some time ;). I have yet to get one of Leo's boards. I know they're not absolutely necessary but they make life so much easier - and I'm all for that :)
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#206 brando

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 15:05

:S!: The stick is finished!
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We have merged a Fighterstick and a ProThrottle together, using an FX base to accommodate all the added wiring
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Each unit has lost a 4-way hat which has been replaced by 4 buttons mounted on the stick, and two two-way switches on the throttle part. The three buttons from the handle have been re-sited also.

The next photo shows that I need to tidy up a tad, and also shows off the dual trigger and switches and buttons quite well:
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It's been plugged in and calibrated in the CHCM and it all works :)
Next job is finishing up the panel and wiring the true throttle into the BU0386X - I don't anticipate any problems with that. Nearly there! 8-)
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#207 hq_Honeymonster

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 15:47

Looks truly excellent Ross well done. :mrgreen:
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#208 Miggins

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Posted 08 October 2011 - 21:57

Saw this in another forum, now admittedly he seems to be running a racing sim, but imagine the possibilities. Dunno how it would work with a loop or a spin though.

The wife would quite possibly disown me.

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#209 Capn_Binky

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 00:12

I showed a friend of mine one of the joyriders as something neat I wanted to try to build.. "It's like you're trying to convince your wife that she made a mistake" was his response.
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#210 elephant

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 10:40

I know it's Greek to you :D but here is the article I have wrote about it:

http://www.hotas.gr/...w/92/1/lang,el/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.hotas.gr/...w/92/1/lang,el/

Not to all of as… ;)

Κατατοπιστικότατο το άρθρο!
Ευχαριστώ και για τον ιστότοπο επίσης, μου ήταν άγνωστος… :D
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#211 335th_GRSwaty

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 17:46

Thank you! :)

See my next project below. (The stand-base is not the one I am planning to use, is just to house the components for the test)


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#212 brando

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 23:06

A mammoth session produced results
not the tidiest but…who cares? ;)
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When the lid is closed and the cables attached…
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and now for a load of programming… :zzz:
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My great thanks go to my good friend Larry who came to my rescue when one hand just wasn't enough! :S!: mate.

I'm really chuffed - it all works! :D
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#213 335th_GRSwaty

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 20:20

Realy Nice!
You are lucky you have space!
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#214 O_Ghost

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 10:46

I've been a bit quiet of late, but not idle!

Hobbyking in Hong Kong sell some useful bits at reasonable prices:

http://www.hobbyking...10pcs_set_.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.hobbyking.../hobbyking/stor … _set_.html

These make the axis wiring a bit easier.

Meanwhile my latched LED issues have taken me down this route:

http://www.picaxe.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.picaxe.com/

There are endless possibilities with PIC's I think, way beyond just making LED's light up!

Keep up the good work everyone :)
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#215 Sylvis

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 11:23

Saw this in another forum, now admittedly he seems to be running a racing sim, but imagine the possibilities. Dunno how it would work with a loop or a spin though.

The wife would quite possibly disown me.

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We will need one that turn all the way around for RoF. :lol:
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#216 brando

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 10:41

He he, I'd like to see him doing a climbing stall turn :D
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#217 hq_Honeymonster

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 10:47

Meh, you need one of these things I tried in the London science museum.

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Full 360 degrees :mrgreen:
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#218 =CfC=FatherTed

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Posted 22 October 2011 - 14:58

Hi all - first post on these forums I believe! This thread has inspired me to try to solve the problem of flying "realistic" flight sims whilst being left-handed - the need for a custom-made HOTAS. So a big thankyou Honeymonster, Flashman, et al. Just remember you can never make explanations too simple! My soldering experience is limited to mending "Round-the-Pole" planes as a kid.

So, in that vein, a few questions:

What grade (or whatever) of wire does one use?

Can anyone point me in the direction of somewhere to buy a suitable "project box"

In your CloD build, HM, you used a rotary pot for the rudder trim, as opposed to a slider - was there any reason for this?

Thanks once again for a great thread

Ted
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#219 SYN_Flashman

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 10:43

Hi all - first post on these forums I believe! This thread has inspired me to try to solve the problem of flying "realistic" flight sims whilst being left-handed - the need for a custom-made HOTAS. So a big thankyou Honeymonster, Flashman, et al. Just remember you can never make explanations too simple! My soldering experience is limited to mending "Round-the-Pole" planes as a kid.

So, in that vein, a few questions:

What grade (or whatever) of wire does one use? I use a relatively thin wire (not at my main machine and therefore pit so I can check). Theres no power or voltage to speak of so you can use thin wire. I suggest multistrand as it bends easir.

Can anyone point me in the direction of somewhere to buy a suitable "project box". Where are you? In the UK the maplin chain sell them. Maplin are expensive BUT you can see them in the shop and therefore get the feel for the size and shape etc. My system has a good number of project boxes (13 IIRC) and I got them all from maplin. There is also mail order. I get losts of stuff from Rapid

http://www.rapidonli...Toggle-Switches" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rapidonli...om/Electronic-C … e-Switches

In your CloD build, HM, you used a rotary pot for the rudder trim, as opposed to a slider - was there any reason for this? Cant answer for HM, but I use rotary as well for rudder trim. Most fighters ww2 appear to have used a rotary rudder trim. Also for the pit builder rotary pots are much easier to fit and also there is a good variation of knobs for them. Linear pots can be a pain in the ass to fit (depends upon your skills!)

Thanks once again for a great thread

Ted

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#220 =CfC=FatherTed

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 11:46

Thankyou, Flashman. I shall nip down to Maplins and see if I can't get going with this. The reason I wanted linear pots for trims was so that I could get a visual clue as to how my plane is trimmed - at the mo I have to use key presses. As to skills, I'll have to see!

BTW are you also the Flashman who posts at The Wargamer?
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#221 SYN_Flashman

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 14:32

BTW are you also the Flashman who posts at The Wargamer?

No, thats clearly an impostor. Im the true internet Flashman!
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#222 brando

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 16:22

I'm ever so pleased with the rotary pots recommended by Leo Bodnar. The basic single turn is smooth and firm (ooer!) and good for throttle use, while the 3-turn jobbie is ideal for finer stuff like trimming.

Here's my elevator trim-wheel, a Marconi knob on a 3-turn pot, used for the WW2 stuff. In Rof I use it for mixture

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I guess I'll have to slap the painter on a fizzer, eh what? ;)
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#223 Volans

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 18:07

Making some progress here, still need some finishing touches:

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#224 Scott_Steiner

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 21:52

That is absolutely beautiful and completely fitting for the WWI setting. The leather boot is a nice touch.
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#225 Bird-Dog

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 13:39

After helping Brando with a bit of soldering on his new setup I felt somewhat motivated to have a go myself.`Bee` in apreciation of my assistance dug out all the internal components of a spare CH Fighter stick he had in his spares store to get me started :S!: and eventualy I came up with :arrow: Attached File  CH FighterStick conversion.JPG   3.51MB   778 downloads
The Axis knobs are dummy at present as in the future I am planning to make a Twin throttle assembly.With three modes & shft available with the CH software i still have 198 available commands.
I then got the bug to go further and ordered a bodnar board ,http://www.leobodnar...ts/BU0836X/,and built this…… :arrow: Attached File  Bodnar Setup.JPG   4.15MB   778 downloads
32switch positions and 8 pots .The paddle switches are momentary on/off/on so there are two momentary command positions on each switch.
I gues I will have to make an index sheet to show what button does what for each unit as with my failing brain functions I will never remember them all :?
The panels take up little room so the flightdeck is still quite compact. :S!:

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#226 335th_GRSwaty

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 20:38

Multi- Engine DYI Throttle Quadrant

Just a demo, not final project!


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#227 SYN_Flashman

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 21:17

Nice work with the multi engine gubbin there.
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#228 335th_GRSwaty

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 22:32

Thank you!
My project is a simplified (very!) of this one:

http://users.skynet....pit/TRTLGal.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://users.skynet....pit/TRTLGal.htm

I use this technique

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#229 Volans

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Posted 27 November 2011 - 23:52

Nice throttle, smart usage of the linear pot, no gearing needed.

I'm still trying to adapt on my own "long stick"..very different feeling comparing to rest of the sticks I've used untill now. Longer movement means more precision, but gives me some kind of a "lag" feeling, my hand had to actualy TRAVEL from side to side, while using an usual stick movement is almost instantaneous…tricky feeling, almost felt like main advantage is his biggest disadvantage.
I'd like to get some advices/feedback from more experimented "long stick" users, if you please, should I use some program like Diview to tweak the axes? I don't know, it works perfect, and yet it seems strange.
Some testing using joytester (the first three pictures are from my diy stick, last one is my old Thrustmaster afterburner 2):
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OLD :) afterburner:
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#230 O_Ghost

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 04:28

Some nice stuff coming out guys!!

Bird Dog, the way I overcame a failing memory with regard to switches was to decide the switch function first and then place everything into logical groups. For instance my 2 engine start switches are between the mixture and radiator pots, the bomb release switches are all together on a yellow and black background with the bombsight toggle close by etc.

The fact that I have decided the positions makes it easier for me to remember :) I am still considering marking border around the switch groups to eliminate any more confusion!
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#231 Bird-Dog

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 21:01

Thanks for the suggestions,block coloured sections would help the ole gray matter record the switch actions.The multi throttle designs are quite inventive too. ;)
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#232 =CfC=FatherTed

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 16:06

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Here is my new controller box, built entirely through following Honeymonster's guide in this thread. I won't show you the insides (first bit of wiring I've ever done…) All the buttons and sliders show up in Windows game controller properties, but I need to make a few additions (non-slip base, fix slider knobs) before it becomes operational
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#233 hq_Honeymonster

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 21:38

Nice job chap, well done that's a really nice little box. Also well done to all the other chaps who have also made some excellent creations and been kind enough to share them with us. I don't have much time to spend on here anymore but it is nice to see all the cool projects that have been happening while I've been gone. :)
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#234 Zlatarov

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 13:32

Hi all,

My stuff too:

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#235 335th_GRSwaty

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 21:24

I would like to share a brilliant idea I saw at eagle.ru

http://forums.eagle....ead.php?t=84926" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://forums.eagle....ead.php?t=84926
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#236 Rivfader

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 00:19

I can't wait for some long joystick at fair price on market, some ww1 replica would be epic!!!!
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#237 Volans

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 10:10

Some kind of a (loose) Albatros control column: steel bar, cooper plumbing and putty.
Will not be a 100% historical replica, rather an easy/cheap grip for my next diy stick.

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#238 Pirato

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:08

Looks good,it will be an interesting piece of Hardware. :S!: But you said it will be for your next DIY stick…means you did one already?
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Dann gibt's Heulen und Zähne klammern, für das ganze Lumpenpack.
Dann ist Schluss mit "Tischlein deck' dich", da gibt's "Knüppel aus dem Sack"!


#239 Volans

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 13:04

Yes: http://www.d13-th.ro...pic,6324.0.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.d13-th.ro...pic,6324.0.html

meanwhile…. two new ones:

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#240 Pirato

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 15:26

Looks like good and solid work.
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Dann gibt's Heulen und Zähne klammern, für das ganze Lumpenpack.
Dann ist Schluss mit "Tischlein deck' dich", da gibt's "Knüppel aus dem Sack"!



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