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#1 KAPEH

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 08:42

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Hi, guys!!!!
I've just finished Fritz Jacobsen "hippy" skin for Albatros D.III which he had apparently "put on" his airplane in June-July 1917. Source of information
Jasta 31, Fritz Jacobsen, June-July 1917

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#2 J2_Wallenberg

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 11:08

Weird… but… cool… but… YES. Well done, too!
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#3 J2_Adam

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 11:20

Wow! that's cool! Wanted to do this one myself. :)

I believe though, that the dark brown you have there should mauve(lilac) instead. Most early Albs were pale green, dark green and reddish brown. Then, as specified in the April,12th 1917 Idflieg Directive, reddish brown was removed entirely at the manufacturer (with pale green and dark green being used for batches 600/17 to 649/17, and then later, pale green, dark green and lilac and finally dark green and lilac.

Your source shows lilac(mauve)near the wingtip not brown.

I'll hold my vote until correction. 8-)

Beautiful work! Love it!

Cheers
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#4 KAPEH

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 12:13

Wow! that's cool! Wanted to do this one myself. :)
THX!!!

I believe though, that the dark brown you have there should mauve(lilac) instead. Most early Albs were pale green, dark green and reddish brown. Then, as specified in the April,12th 1917 Idflieg Directive, reddish brown was removed entirely at the manufacturer (with pale green and dark green being used for batches 600/17 to 649/17, and then later, pale green, dark green and lilac and finally dark green and lilac.
This dark green/liliac problem was my biggest consern. The source says that the airplane's number was 2090/16, which Herr Jacobsen flew long time before….so I've suggested that this airplane got early camo, inspite the one showed at the first picture. Maybe somebody can provide more sufficient information? I'd gladly return camo which was in template. :)
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#5 WF2

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 12:48

I really like the personal marking of this one, very interesting.

But I do not care for your skin artwork of it, the colors seem off. I think some tweaking is still needed.
The molting effect dose not look correct and the cowl and sheet metal colors are off. Looks a little arcade to me. Also what J2 Adam said.

No, at this point.
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#6 KAPEH

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 12:55

What does mean "molting effect"? I didn't find meaning of the word "molting" :(
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#7 WF2

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 13:25

… I should have said, the stippling effect on the fuselage. Sorry to confuse.

Stippling = (Fine Arts & Visual Arts / Art Terms) to apply paint, powder, etc., to (something) with many light dabs.
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#8 J2_Adam

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 14:01

Here are some good links. Dan San Abbott is a world renowned researcher of WW1 aircraft. You see his name mentioned alot in these circles. He's pretty much "the guy". See these links. They are models done according to his drawings.

Looks like you might need to redo the colours and wing camo design :(

http://www.plastimod...php?f=20&t=2584" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.plastimod...mo.org/bbs/view … =20&t=2584
http://www.wwi-model...tros/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.wwi-model...g/Images/Duckwo … index.html

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#9 KAPEH

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 14:19

… I should have said, the stippling effect on the fuselage. Sorry to confuse.

Stippling = (Fine Arts & Visual Arts / Art Terms) to apply paint, powder, etc., to (something) with many light dabs.
Here are some good links. Dan San Abbott is a world renowned researcher of WW1 aircraft. You see his name mentioned alot in these circles. He's pretty much "the guy". See these links. They are models done according to his drawings.

Looks like you might need to redo the colours and wing camo design :(

http://www.plastimod...php?f=20&t=2584" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.plastimod...mo.org/bbs/view … =20&t=2584
http://www.wwi-model...tros/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.wwi-model...g/Images/Duckwo … index.html

Cheers
Thx, dudes!!!!
Judging from these links, I'd say…I have to erase everything and start from the scratch with this skin :(….huh….
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#10 WF2

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 14:27

Yes … like this.

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#11 KAPEH

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 14:51

Where's liliac wings? Is it correct without liliac?
Found another revision of this skin :): http://aeroscale.kit...icle&artid=1637" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://aeroscale.kit...r.net/modules.p … artid=1637
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#12 J2_Adam

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 15:05

Early planes… no lilac.
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#13 Der_Sevtl

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 15:05

Alba power!
Yes of course, nice work! :)
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#14 KAPEH

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 15:18

Early planes… no lilac.
So…I shouldn't remove brown strips?

Alba power!
Yes of course, nice work! :)
Thx, Der!!! U're always consols me! Thx, buddy!!!
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#15 J2_Adam

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 15:26

Early planes… no lilac.
So…I shouldn't remove brown strips?

If you redo the wings like this you can't really go too wrong.

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#16 ImPeRaToR

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 15:33

Flower power :D
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#17 WF2

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 15:45

Flower … Edelweiss, would make sense.

Symbolic uses: The Edelweiss was established 1907 as the sign of the Austrian-Hungarian alpine troops by Emperor Franz Joseph I. These original 3 Regiments wore their edelweiss on the collar of their uniform. During World War I (1915) the Edelweiss was granted to the German alpine troops, for their bravery. Today it is still the insignia of the Austrian, Polish, and German alpine troops.

Some info on Fritz John Jacobsen, 9th one down: flieger-album.de/blog/index.php?rs_id=view&s=182

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#18 von_Semmel

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 16:01

nice… –> yes
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#19 =PUH=sVist

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 18:57

yes
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#20 KAPEH

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 11:06

Guys, I've changed camo, changed a bit "molting works" colours. New *.zip you may download out of link in the first message of the topic. I haven't any ROF near right now…pls, check how it looks in the game. Thank you for your votes!!!!
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#21 J2_Adam

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 12:07

My research in theaerodrome.com forum says that the brown you have on your 2090/16 should be venetian red. Which is reddish brown. It looks too chocolate brown right now.

Here are some links to help you and a Venetian Red colour plate I made for you. Take your pick. Just plug in the Hex Values in your Colour Picker in Photoshop.



http://www.resene.co...Glo roof range (2008" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.resene.co...swatches/previe … ge%20(2008)&brand=Resene&name=Venetian%20Red

http://venetianred.net/about/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://venetianred.net/about/

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#22 KAPEH

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 12:14

Thank you, Adam….but problem that in ROF's skin templates there are many layers with shadows, wethering etc that changes colours drastically…anyway…I'll try to make it close as possible.
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#23 WF2

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 12:28

KAPEH … would you please re-post a picture when your ready, here. Love to see it.
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#24 KAPEH

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 12:43

I've changed "KAPEH's brown" to ~venetian red. Link renewed at first message of the topic. Screen from MFSViewer refreshed :)

KAPEH … would you please re-post a picture when your ready, here. Love to see it.
I can't send picture from ROF engine cause don't have any near me at the moment….I'm on my work place pretending I'm working hard :lol:
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#25 J2_Adam

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 12:54

Hey looking good!

Just wondering… it's hard to see in the photo…. is the left half of the horizontal stabilizer pale green or dark green?

Nice work!



PS: I'm surprised that Womenfly2 didn't mention to change the colour of the tires to cream/light gray :)

Apparently all german planes had light gray/cream tires and didn't go to black until after the war.

Cheers
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#26 KAPEH

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 13:07

Hey looking good!….
Nice work!
THX!!!!

… it's hard to see in the photo…. is the left half of the horizontal stabilizer pale green or dark green?
pale green

PS: I'm surprised that Womenfly2 didn't mention to change the colour of the tires to cream/light gray :)

Apparently all german planes had light gray/cream tires and didn't go to black until after the war.

Cheers

Well…I guess tires mired :)
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#27 KAPEH

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 17:18

Guys, I've uploaded final (I hope) version of the Fritz Jacobsen's "summer 1917" skin. Check link at the initial message of the topic.
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#28 KAPEH

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 14:04

nice… –> yes
yes
Thank you, guys!!!! / Спасибо, Свист!!!
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#29 FlyingShark

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 16:08

Yes, like said before, weird but cool.

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#30 KAPEH

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 13:22

Thank You, FlyingShark!!!!
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#31 Keks_pilot

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 16:07

Вот это … Супер!!
Откуда этот самолет?
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#32 KAPEH

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 06:11

Ну…эта….на нём, судя по всему, в июне-июле 1917 летал Фриц Якобсен из Jasta 31…по крайней мере фото, на которое опирался мой источник (первая ссылка в первом посте), говорит о том что фотография сделана именно в этот период. Серийный номер машины 2090/16. Изначально на ней был "старый" камо и вот этот поясок ромбиками…а потом, видать, заскучал наш Фриц…. :D
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#33 Panthercules

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 15:43

I noticed that you have not yet updated your download file to meet the new requirements (e.g., the .txt file). Please do so before your poll closes (or, if it's going to take you more time than that, please edit your first post to extend the poll by a few days to give yourself more time - otherwise, if it hasn't been done when I try to process it after poll closure, I'll extend it for you to give you more time to meet the new requirements).

Also, please note in your first post when you have updated the download file.

Thanks,

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#34 KAPEH

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 07:34

Ok. Got it.
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Posted 27 February 2011 - 22:07

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