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#41 Karma-Police

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 12:06

Oh yes and please this one :

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Please no prototypes this thread is about OPERATIONAL planes.
So forget about Junkers CL.I or D.I etc etc.

Thanks a lot ;)
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#42 Millst0ne

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 13:54

Oh yes and please this one :

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Please no prototypes this thread is about OPERATIONAL planes.
So forget about Junkers CL.I or D.I etc etc.

Thanks a lot ;)


That plane was designed, Flew, saw combat, and kicked butt :D
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#43 Karma-Police

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 15:06

During WWI ?

(Have a look to the title of this thread please :) )
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#44 WF2

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 16:53

Karma-Police wrote: Please no prototypes this thread is about OPERATIONAL planes.
So forget about Junkers CL.I or D.I etc etc.

….. talk about bad Karma …. always so negative.

So, what are the limits of a plane to be on the list Jason is asking for? Any WW1? Must be issued to the front? More then? …. ?

BTW: Some did see front line action.
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#45 SYN_Vander

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 17:47

I say, let Jason decide, but I see no problem in adding prototypes. If the field "First Operation Date" isn't filled we'll know it was never used in combat.

P.S. According to Windsock Datafile 33, a couple of Junkers DI's did indeed reach the front before the armistice. It is unknown if they flew in combat, but when found after the war they had been assembled and unit colours had been applied. Let's give it the benefit of the doubt!?! A very interesting machine!
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#46 Interloper

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 18:43

I was just looking if anything was added to the list, and saw someone added a picture for the Martinsyde Buzzard. I took a look at it and it was not the Buzzard. (It may be the Martinsyde Elephant, or an earlier Martinsyde model) I took the liberty of putting another one up, hope that's okay. It is probably the best picture of the Buzzard I have found that is not the one in Finland.

I believe it is the Martinsyde that they sent to Japan with the Se5a.

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#47 Interloper

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 19:08

I will add this to the list as well

Caudron R.11

First Flight: March 1917
Power: Two Hispano-Suiza 215hp 8Bba in-line piston engines
Armament: Five 7.7mm Lewis Machine Guns- two each in front and rear gunner positions and one under the nose
Size: Wingspan- 17.92m
Length- 11.22m
Height- 2.8m
Wing Area- 54.25m^2
Weights: Empty- 1422kg
Max Take-off- 2167kg
Performance: Max Speed- 183kph
Ceiling- 5950m
Range- 3 hrs endurance
Climb- 2000m in 8 mins, 10 sec

The Caudron R.11 had many interesting features such as: dual controls for the pilot and rear gunner, engine nacelles could be jettisoned together with the fuel tanks they contaned (late models only), the aircraft was fully aerobatic. It was designed as a heavily armed reconnaissance-bomber, but proved to be a formidable escort fighter over the Western Front.

Info found in "Fighter Aircraft" by Francis Crosby of the Imperial War Museum Duxford

Edit: Do you still want us adding info ourselves?
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#48 HotTom

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 19:22

This list isn't complete (important day bombers such as the DH4, DH9 and DH9A, for example, are missing and the dates for the FE2b are only those for use as a fighter; it was used extensievly as a night bomber until mid-1918) but what is there is accurate.

As a good overall reference, I highly recommend this book: http://www.amazon.co...95032755&sr=8-1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.amazon.co...RCRAFT-WWI-1914 … 755&sr=8-1

Service dates:

AEG G.IV
ServiceStartDate=11/1916
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

Albatros D.III
ServiceStartDate=02/1917
ServiceEndDate=11/1917

Albatross D.III 160Hp
ServiceStartDate=02/1917
ServiceEndDate=11/1917

Albatros D.IIIOAW 185 Hp
ServiceStartDate=06/1917
ServiceEndDate=11/1917

Albatros D.III OEF 200 Hp
ServiceStartDate=05/1917
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

Albatros D.V
ServiceStartDate=06/1917
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

Albatros D.Va
ServiceStartDate=10/1917
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

Albatros D.I
ServiceStartDate=08/1916
ServiceEndDate=03/1917

Albatros D.II
ServiceStartDate=08/1916
ServiceEndDate=03/1917

Aviatik C.II
ServiceStartDate=10/1915
ServiceEndDate=09/1916

Avro 504D
ServiceStartDate=04/1915
ServiceEndDate=01/1916

BE.2c
ServiceStartDate=05/1915
ServiceEndDate=09/1917

BE.2d
ServiceStartDate=07/1916
ServiceEndDate=11/1917

Bréguet 14
ServiceStartDate=06/1917
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

Britol M1C
ServiceStartDate=06/1917
ServiceEndDate=11/1917

Caproni Ca.3
ServiceStartDate=06/1917
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

Camel 110hp
ServiceStartDate=06/1917
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

Camel 130hp
ServiceStartDate=06/1917
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

Camel 150hp
ServiceStartDate=12/1917
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

DFW C.V
ServiceStartDate=09/1916
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

DFW C.I
ServiceStartDate=02/1916
ServiceEndDate=10/1916

Airco DH.2
ServiceStartDate=02/1916
ServiceEndDate=03/1917

Sopwith Dolphin
ServiceStartDate=01/1918
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

Bristol Fighter F.2B
ServiceStartYear=05/1917
ServiceEndYear=11/1918

Farman MF7
ServiceStartDate=04/1915
ServiceEndDate=12/1915

Farman MF11b
ServiceStartDate=06/1915
ServiceEndDate=06/1916

F.E. 2b
ServiceStartDate=01/1916
ServiceEndDate=12/1916

F.E. 2C
ServiceStartDate=11/1916
ServiceEndDate=11/1917

FE.8
ServiceStartDate=06/1916
ServiceEndDate=07/1917

Fokker D.VII
ServiceStartDate=05/1918
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

Fokker D.VIIF
ServiceStartDate=06/1918
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

Fokker D.VIII
ServiceStartDate=8/1918
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

Fokker D.II
ServiceStartDate=05/1916
ServiceEndDate=08/1916

Fokker D.III
ServiceStartDate=09/1916
ServiceEndDate=12/1916

Fokker Dr.I
ServiceStartDate=10/1917
ServiceEndDate=08/1918

Fokker E.I
ServiceStartDate=06/1915
ServiceEndDate=02/1916

Fokker E.Ia
ServiceStartDate=06/1915
ServiceEndDate=02/1916

Fokker E.III
ServiceStartDate=11/1915
ServiceEndDate=08/1916

Fokker E.IV
ServiceStartDate=05/1916
ServiceEndDate=08/1916

Fokker E.IVa
ServiceStartDate=05/1916
ServiceEndDate=08/1916

Gotha G.IV
ServiceStartDate=05/1917
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

Halberstadt D.III
ServiceStartDate=06/1916
ServiceEndDate=05/1917

Hanriot HD1
ServiceStartYear=08/1917
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

Handley Page HP O/400
ServiceStartDate=05/1918
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

Junkers D.I
ServiceStartDate=07/1918
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

Martinside G100
ServiceStartDate=03/1916
ServiceEndDate=11/1917

Martinside S1
ServiceStartDate=03/1915
ServiceEndDate=06/1916

Morane-Saulnier Type N
ServiceStartDate=08/1915
ServiceEndDate=08/1916

Morane-Saulnier Type H
ServiceStartDate=04/1915
ServiceEndDate=02/1916

Morane-Saulnier Type L
ServiceStartDate=04/1915
ServiceEndDate=01/1916

Morane-Saulnier Type LAO
ServiceStartDate=07/1915
ServiceEndDate=02/1916

Nieuport 24
ServiceStartYear=08/1917
ServiceEndDate=11/1917

Nieuport 24 bis
ServiceStartYear=08/1917
ServiceEndDate=11/1917

Nieuport 27
ServiceStartYear=09/1917
ServiceEndDate=05/1918

Nieuport 27 (Dual Lewis)
ServiceStartYear=09/1917
ServiceEndDate=05/1918

Nieuport 28
ServiceStartDate=03/1918
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

Nieuport 11
ServiceStartDate=10/1915
ServiceEndDate=08/1916

Nieuport 17
ServiceStartDate=08/1916
ServiceEndDate=09/1917

Pfalz D.III
ServiceStartDate=09/1917
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

Pfalz D.VIII
ServiceStartDate=04/1918
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

Pfalz D.XII
ServiceStartDate=06/1918
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

Pfalz Dr.1
ServiceStartDate=01/1918
ServiceEndDate=05/1918

Pfalz E.I
ServiceStartDate=06/1915
ServiceEndDate=07/1916

Pfalz E.III
ServiceStartDate=06/1915
ServiceEndDate=01/1916

Pfalz E.IV
ServiceStartDate=03/1916
ServiceEndDate=07/1916

Pfalz E.V
ServiceStartDate=03/1916
ServiceEndDate=07/1916

Sopwith Pup
ServiceStartYear=10/1916
ServiceEndYear=09/1917

RE8
ServiceStartDate=11/1916
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

RFC MF11
ServiceStartDate=06/1914
ServiceEndDate=01/1916

RFC SF11
ServiceStartDate=06/1915
ServiceEndDate=02/1916

Salmson 2a
ServiceStartDate=10/1917
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

Siemens-Schuckert D.III
ServiceStartDate=04/1918
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

SE5a
ServiceStartDate=07/1917
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

Sopwith Snipe
ServiceStartDate=10/1918
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

Savoia Pomillio SP3
ServiceStartDate=05/1917
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

SPAD VII (150hp)
ServiceStartDate=09/1916
ServiceEndDate=11/1917

SPAD VII (180hp)
ServiceStartDate=04/1917
ServiceEndDate=06/1918

SPAD XIII
ServiceStartDate=09/1917
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

SPAD XII
ServiceStartDate=01/1917
ServiceEndDate=08/1918

Zeppelin Staaken R.VI
ServiceStartDate=08/1917
ServiceEndDate=11/1918

Sopwith Triplane
ServiceStartDate=03/1917
ServiceEndDate=09/1917

LFG Roland C.II
ServiceStartDate=02/1916
ServiceEndDate=05/1917
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#49 Karma-Police

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 20:02


….. talk about bad Karma …. always so negative.


Oh I'm bad…
It remind me a song.
I'm not always negative too this is just the limit of this thread: all operational planes of WWI.
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#50 WF2

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 20:31

…Oh I'm bad…
It remind me a song.
I'm not always negative too this is just the limit of this thread: all operational planes of WWI.

Do the two prototype F.I triplanes qualify as Operational?

… “How people treat you is their karma; how you react is yours.”
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#51 Karma-Police

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 21:18

They saw battle even if they are just two. So yes they should be listed as operational plane.

Added Albatros D.III and D.V to the spreadsheet.
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#52 Interloper

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 00:02

Added Morane-Saulnier Type N

First Flight: July 1917
Power: Le Rhone 110hp 9C rotary piston engine
Armament: One fixed forward-firing 7.7mm or 8mm machine gun
Size: Wingspan- 8.3m
Length- 6.7m
Height- 2.5m
Wing Area-11m^2
Weights: Empty- 288kg
Max Take-off- 444kg
Performance: Max Speed- 165kph
Ceiling- 4000m
Range- 225km
Climb- 250 m per min

Again from "Fighter Aircraft" by Francis Crosby
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#53 CAFulcrum

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 16:32

HotTom, a lot of those dates don't match to what I was able to compile when I produced my chart Aircraft Timelines for historical matches in QMB

For example, the Albatros DII I have as remaining in service until November 1917, the Alb. DIII entering service in December of 1916, the sopwith triplane remaining in service with some units until November 1917, etc. I know my sources are mainly from wikipedia but usually in the article there are book sources cited and the information looks specific.

There are other factors that need to be taken into account as well, like the difference between a plane entering service for training/familiarity and actually being used in military operations, the use of prototypes or evaluation planes like the first dr1s and Spad XIIIs, and plane/engine variants and their time of introduction within the main model's lifetime. Also some planes were pulled out of certain services or countries but continued on in others, like the nieport 11 which continued to fly in the Belgium Air Force for more than a year after it was pulled from French and British Air Services.

I think therefore each aircraft will have to be researched individually to pin down the exact dates of 1) prototype 2) factory orders 3) delivery to the front 4) operational begin time 5) phase in/phase out of configurations and 6) service end dates per squadron/service before we have a full picture of a timeline for the aircraft. 1 and 2 are optional except for a few of the cases mentioned above where the planes were used in combat. 3 and 4 I think are where the discrepancies are coming from.
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#54 ImPeRaToR

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 16:49

The Albatros D.III and even the odd D.II remained in service until the end of the war.
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#55 Karma-Police

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 17:58

I agree but for the OAW-built only and in very limited number.
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#56 HotTom

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 21:46

Deleted due to personal insults.

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#57 CAFulcrum

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 23:25

HT, obviously it's Jason's decision on whether to include those dates, I was only making a suggestion (as others have on this forum when discussing projects) and I'm sorry if it came out wrong.

Maybe I missed something, I skimmed a page or two of the thread, but I gathered from his initial post that he was looking for a more specific sort of aircraft listing with uses beyond ROF, and having a full service history in that list doesn't seem unreasonable to me. If we are to verify the dates of each aircraft's main service record we will probably find dates for the other points of the aircraft's history as well, so we might as well record them all at once if possible. It would just present a clearer picture of the plane's service record and allow for special missions (like Voss's last fight) or alternate campaigns such as a Belguim Career. Having more specifics about the variations and their entrance/exit would also be better for a game like ROF where we have only a single variation of a plane, except for the DVII and DIIt. So we could know just how realistic a pairing was and have better clarity for when we start getting more variations.

I admit I was limited to the internet when researching, and I know wikipedia is a lame source but I trusted most of the citations I saw, you're welcome to dispute them with your own citations if you think they're wrong, isn't that the idea of having a discussion and collaborating on the chart? I wish I could help with my own book sources but I don't have an extensive library, only the red baron's autobiography and a few general aircraft books. It was very hard to find a good, detailed listing of service dates for aircraft on the internet, adding such a thing to this chart would make a great central resource that doesn't currently exist online. I've tried to look through the aerodrome but it seems to be a forum, necessitating searching through posts… I tried to look up the DIII and got a thread about a plastic model.

And why should we limit this list to the capabilities of ROF as it is now? Aside from Jason's apparent intention for this to be beyond the scope of ROF, we will probably be getting maps for other places like Palestine, the Eastern Front, and London, at some point in the future, so having this info will be beneficial to mission builders when we do get those maps.
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#58 HotTom

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 23:57

Fulcrum,

I'm not criticizing your enthusiasm or your desire to provide a very complete picture.

But it's already been done in many books, this being the latest and very complete (and relatively inexpensive):

http://www.amazon.co...45&sr=8-1-spell" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.amazon.co...RCRAFT-WWI-1914 … =8-1-spell

Product Description
Illustrated with detailed artworks of combat aircraft and their markings, 'The Essential Aircraft Identification Guide: Aircraft of WWI' is a comprehensive study of the aircraft that fought in the Great War of 1914-18. Arranged chronologically by theater of war and campaign, this book offers a complete organizational breakdown of the units on all the fronts, including the Eastern and Italian Fronts. Each campaign includes a compact history of the role and impact of aircraft on the course of the conflict, as well as orders of battle, lists of commanders and campaign aces such as Manfred von Richtofen, Eddie Rickenbacker, Albert Ball and many more.Every type of aircraft is featured, including the numerous variations and types of well-known models, such as the Fokker Dr.I, the Sopwith Camel and the SPAD SVII, through to lesser-known aircraft, such as the Rumpler C.1, and the Amstrong Whitworth FK8. Each aircraft profile is accompanied by exhaustive specifications, as well as details of individual and unit markings. Packed with more than 200 color profiles of every major type of combat aircraft from the era, 'The Essential Aircraft Identification Guide: Aircraft of WWI' is an essential reference guide for modelers, military historians and aircraft enthusiasts.returncharacterreturncharacter returncharacterreturncharacter REVIEWS returncharacterreturncharacter"…a comprehensive study of the aircraft that fought in the Great War…"Model Retailer, 06/2010'…a lavishly illustrated guide which covers just about everything essential about World War I aircraft from the familiar to the obscure…" Stand To! Journal of the Western Front Association, 08/2010" …provides more than 250 exceptionally well printed and detailed color views that capture the spirit of the aircraft far better than the usual line drawings. Military modelers and aviation buffs alike will benefit from Pearson's attention to unit and other markings….wealth of information…"Over the Front, 10/2010


Look on The Aerodrome web site under books and there are many similar reference books.

Why re-invent the wheel?

But if you want to spend the time and energy compiling what already has been compiled many times, I'm not going to criticize you. Knock yourself out ;)
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#59 Karma-Police

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 10:55

Added Phönix D.I, D.II and D.IIa to the store.
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#60 Eiswolf

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Posted 18 January 2011 - 14:31

http://www.theaerodr...craft/index.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theaerodr...craft/index.php

very good link any plane with significance is listed here as well as over 17,000 serial numbers
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#61 Jason_Williams

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 01:55

Thanks guys for the sources of info. Looks like the online spreadsheet is not too popular so I'll just compile this into a spreadsheet and make it available to all when it's in a useable state.

And for the person who doesn't think I know anything about WWI, I do have lots of this info in my own book collection, but sometimes it's easier to ask the community to help out since some of their sources are easier to pull info from quicker and some info is debatable so it's good to have multiple sources. And the request for community help is for the benefit of the community. Remember gathering info in a useful form to do something cool with it is the goal. It's not for my own personal amusement.

What's not debatable is my commitment to this sim or my own personal knowledge of anything WWI. I don't know everything, but I know a lot. Any more comments aimed at me personally or anyone trying to help with these projects and you are banned from the forum.

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#62 WF2

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 12:48

Its really sad that at times Jason has to defend himself here on the forum.

… very sad.
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#63 Jason_Williams

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 06:52

Thanks. Ya it takes the fun out of it for me sometimes. Becomes just another job when that happens. This should be a happy place where people have fun flying these wonderful planes. I really don't get it sometimes. it didn't use to be this way.

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#64 O_Smiladon

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 09:13

Yes woman I agree with you..

And Jason I think you have more supporters than kickers.


And people are a stange animal sometimes.. I Have worked in retail in the Automotive Industry for most of my life and i have see and heard it all.

What used to crack me up is you get your 500,000 k car onwer complaing about his 25k ceramic clutch kit that he has burned out because he has no idea how to handle is sports machine.

Makes you wounder..

Dam the tourpedos Jason full speed ahead.

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#65 =III=Flav

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 02:24

2 more:
Caproni Ca 22
Parasol Monoplane serving as a 2 seat observation craft and also carried out bombing operations along the Austrian border. 7, possibly the total amount built, were used by the Italian Army 15 Squadron in 1915
SPECS:
Wingspan-46 ft 4 inches
Length-26 ft 3 inches
Height-11 ft 6 inches
Empty weight-1,056 lbs
Max speed-76 mph
Engine-Gnome Rhone 80 or 100 hp
Manufactured-Italy
Crew- Two: Pilot and observer

Etrich Taube:
Wing-warping monoplane developed in 1909. It had a very stable flight proving well for observation. Its translucent wings made it very difficult to detect above 400m. It was used as practically everything up til 6 months into the war, when it was withdrawn into use as a trainer. It was used by China, Austria-Hungary, the German Empire, the Ottoman Empire, Italy and Norway, although at least 1 example was used by the RFC in 1912.
SPECS:
Crew: two
Length: 9.9 m (33.5 ft)
Wingspan: 14.3 m (45.83 ft)
Height: 3.2 m (10.5 ft)
Wing area: 32.5 m² (280 ft²)
Empty weight: 650 kg (950 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 850 kg (1,200 lb)
Powerplant: 1 × 4-cylinder Argus or 6-Cylinder Mercedes Typ E4F, 74 kW (99 hp)
Performance
Maximum speed: 100 km/h (60 mph)
Range: 140 km (86 miles)
Service ceiling: 2,000 m (10,000 ft)
Armament
Rifles and pistols
Hand dropped bombs
I don't have any more info on the Caproni, but if you wanted some the Omaka Aviation Heritage Centre has most of the specs.
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#66 Shutter

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 05:01

I'd also like to see the 1 1/2 (in both the single seat and two seat versions). :0o:

I'll pitch in with a very important but overlooked aircraft for the RFC, the Sopwith 1½ Strutter.

Designation: Sopwith 1½ Strutter
Country of origin: United Kingdom
Builder: Sopwith Aviation Co. Ltd.
Specs:
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Source: Profile Publications No.121, The Sopwith 1½ Strutter

Sopwith 1½ Strutter

If need be, I can go to the National Archives in Kew and research more information.

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#67 catchov

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 05:05

I'd also like to see the 1 1/2 (in both the single seat and two seat versions). :0o:

Me too. :shock:
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#68 Shutter

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 05:09

Historically, this would be a great plane for a Middle East Campaign. I think adding other fronts would keep ROF going for a LONG time!

Bristrol M.I very overlooked plane with great speed and maneuvering.

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#69 Shutter

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 05:11

The Roland C. II had a long service life, and was a rugged aircraft! I'd love to see a flyable version in the game. :0o:

Roland C.II a great 2 seater an a potent adversary, fighters avoided it ! …. but landings, a real killer!

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#70 Shutter

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 05:35

FRENCH
Bombers-> http://www.wwiaviati...ers_France.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.wwiaviati...ers_France.html
Floatplanes-> http://www.wwiaviati...nes_France.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.wwiaviati...nes_France.html

CP
Bombers-> http://www.wwiaviati...ers_german.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.wwiaviati...ers_german.html
Floatplanes-> http://www.wwiaviati...ral_powers.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.wwiaviati...om/float-planes … owers.html
Flying boats-> http://www.wwiaviati...ats-german.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.wwiaviati...ats-german.html

BRITISH
Bombers-> http://www.wwiaviati...rs_British.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.wwiaviati...rs_British.html
Floatplanes-> http://www.wwiaviati...es_Britian.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.wwiaviati...es_Britian.html
Flying boats-> http://www.wwiaviati...ts-british.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.wwiaviati...ts-british.html

RUSSIA
Bombers-> http://www.wwiaviati...ers_Russia.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.wwiaviati...ers_Russia.html
Flying boats-> http://www.wwiaviati...ts-russian.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.wwiaviati...ts-russian.html

GREAT LINKS!!!! I'm being greedy, but I'd love to fly them on!!
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#71 KAPEH

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 11:40

The Roland C. II had a long service life, and was a rugged aircraft! I'd love to see a flyable version in the game. :0o:

Roland C.II a great 2 seater an a potent adversary, fighters avoided it ! …. but landings, a real killer!

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#72 hq_Overmax

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 13:02

The roland would truly be a nice plane, the visibility for pilot and gunner must be remarkable.

Haven't followed the whole thread so maybe already mentioned: The etrich taube. As the plane with the very first combat experience I guess it's quite important historically. Of course, since unarmed (except some hand grenades in your pocket) it would be in the category recon plane.
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Not many data around. Too embarassed to post wikipedia as reference here :oops: .

I'll see if I find some more information.

All I know so far is:
- It had no rudder
- It had a steering wheel instead of a control column
- Wing warping technology
- two seater
- Engine between 40 and up HP
- considered relatively safe since not many accidents are registered. (Could also be the time that has eaten a lot of the registered once though)
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#73 Tom-Cundall

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 13:29

It also appeared on the German pilot's badge so all through the war every German pilot had a picture of one on their uniforms.
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#74 KAPEH

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 14:57

The problem with Taube is that almost every german aircraft manufacturer had been producing it's own Taube type airplane. And there was plenty of Taubes at the time with different engines and with the minor changes in the construction. Which one would you like for modelling in ROF? As far as I know the best Taubes were produced at the Roland factory.
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#75 J5_vonHippel

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 16:54

Great idea Jason!

Would be really cool to have a complete list of all operational aircraft during WW1.

S!
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#76 Gunsmith86

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 19:44

List of all Operational Aircraft in WWI


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArMJenZLYNoqdDN5U2VIQkhOdVhZUVI2Y2xKZlpLN3c&hl=en_US#gid=0


more later: :S!:
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#77 Blade_meister

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 19:54

All Airplanes ever built!!! maybe this will help ?

S! Blade<><
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#78 Gunsmith86

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 21:23

List of all Operational Aircraft in WWI:


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArMJenZLYNoqdHpzZEtuN2hLWHhDdjRxNEpLV3cxZUE&hl=en_US#gid=0

more is planned for next week. :S!:
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#79 O_Rod

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 00:38

I think it's a great idea.
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#80 N28_Uberplane

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 12:59

Here's a couple


Sopwith 7F.1 Snipe

Crew: 1
Length: 19 ft 10 in (6.05 m)
Wingspan: 31 ft 1 in (9.48 m)
Height: 9 ft 6 in (2.90 m)
Wing area: 271 ft² (25.2 m²)
Empty weight: 1,312 lb (596 kg)
Loaded weight: 2,020 lb (918 kg)
Powerplant: 1 × Bentley BR2 rotary engine, 230 hp (172 kW)
Performance
Maximum speed: 121 mph (105 knots, 195 km/h) at 10,000 ft (3,050 m)
Service ceiling: 19,500 ft (5,945 m)
Endurance: 3 hours
Climb to 6,600 ft (1,980 m): 5 min 10 sec
Climb to 15,000 ft (4,570 m): 18 min 50 sec

Armament
Guns: 2× 0.303 in (7.7 mm) Vickers machine guns
Bombs: 4× 25 lb (11 kg) bombs
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Sopwith "Comic"

Night Fighter Version of the Camel
Crew: 1
Length: 18 ft 9 in (5.71 m)
Wingspan: 26 ft 11 in (8.53 m)
Height: 8 ft 6 in (2.59 m)
Wing area: 231 ft² (21.46 m²)
Empty weight: 930 lb (420 kg)
Loaded weight: 1,455 lb (660 kg)
Powerplant: 1 × Clerget 9B 9-cylinder Rotary engine, 130 hp (97 kW)

Armament: 2 X Lewis MGs (On foster mounts)

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