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#1 Panthercules

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 08:36

I found some resources/photos about an HP 0/400 that was captured intact by the Germans, but the photos showed the plane still in its Entente markings and I have not yet been able to find any pictures or hard evidence of it having been repainted in German markings. Therefore, I'm posting this here as a "Fun" skin since I can't substantiate it as historical. As you will see I've tried to keep it as "semi-historical" as I could, depicting it as if the Germans simply painted over the roundels with crosses (which they did with various other captured aircraft I've seen photos of) and slapped on some standard purple camouflage pattern similar to that used on the DFW C.Vs we have in the game. Given their concern about their own ground troops possibly mistaking its identity, I also added an extra set of crosses on the bottom wing, even though the British didn't seem to put roundels there for some odd reason. Hopefully, mission makers can use this to make some interesting bombing missions for the Central players, until we get some real Central heavy bombers.

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#2 ST_ami7b5

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 08:38

wow, you ARE fast ;)
Yes, of course.
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#3 Gisbod

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 08:40

Lovely… Yes
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#4 Riemann73

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 09:12

Yessir !
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#5 J5_Rumey

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 10:45

Yes!
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#6 JoeCrow

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 12:20

Definately.
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#7 SYN_MrWolf

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 12:58

Nice one Panther! Looks really believable.
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#8 Der_Sevtl

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 13:25

Cool! :)
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#9 BH_Vfw_Klaue

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 13:33

S! Yes Thank you.

S! White Tails
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#10 HotTom

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 14:42

And the point of this skin is….?

Voted No. Not without some reason for it.

As you say, there is no evidence it ever was repainted.

Was it ever used on a bombing mission?

Not likely.

The Gotha will arrive (eventually).

We have enough revisionist history in this sim already.

And way too many fantasy skins.

Looks pretty, though :lol:
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#11 ImPeRaToR

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 14:45

By the time this skin is included in the game we probably have the Gotha anyway.
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#12 Acasto

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 15:01

Vote yes,

HP's arrival is another obstacle to the creation of dynamic online campaigns (created by users), CP has not bombers, and then the missions are all the same: Allied bombing and CP defend.

I hoped that there would be already in the official package …
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#13 Panthercules

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 17:28

And the point of this skin is….?

Voted No. Not without some reason for it.

Thanks for at least explaining your no vote - most folks don't seem to bother. Please see below for my reasons.


By the time this skin is included in the game we probably have the Gotha anyway.

Maybe - in fact, I hope so. But, since the new career mode has already been delayed/postponed at least once, and might be again, and since these big boys are obviously pretty difficult/complicated to create and program, I thought there might at least be some use for this among mission builders in the meantime, in case it gets delayed again.

I too thought that there might be one in the official pack this time, based on a thread someone posted a few weeks ago, but when I didn't see one in the packs this time I thought I might as well offer one up here in case anyone wants to use it. Maybe some squads that trust each other and don't mind playing MP in mods on mode can have some fun with it in the meantime, or maybe somebody who understands the mission builder/editor better than I do wouldn't mind creating some cool SP missions that people like me could use in mods on (or eventually, mods off) SP mode for a while.
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#14 RAF74_Winger

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 18:34

I vote yes. I understand HotTom's reservations but this will give mission builders an interim fix for some flexible mission design, I doubt the Gotha will be out next patch.

Nice skin though & thanks for the quick work.

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#15 hq_Neca

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 19:14

Well, if we get gotha when we get this, it's useless, but if gotha is for 1.018, yep, nice idea, so I voted yes.
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#16 AndyMueller

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 19:32

Got my vote…nice stuff!
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#17 J99-Himmelhund

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 20:46

This is a very good idea. Up to now the German side has to bomb no possibility. Some allied hunters can carry bombs. German hunters cannot do this. Now an allierter bomber has been integrated, in addition, into the play, but again nobody German bomber. This is already disappointing. As a consolation we can fly this prey bomber!
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#18 =J13=Emperor

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 20:56

Yes!
Just do not understand one reason that serves "For Fun" in?
Indeed, one of the first HP was actually captured by Germany.
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#19 Panthercules

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 21:10

Yes!
Just do not understand one reason that serves "For Fun" in?
Indeed, one of the first HP was actually captured by Germany.

Indeed - I had planned to put this up in the Historical section, as I've done with my other captured skins (e.g., 2 Nieuport 11s and a Pup), but I have not been able to find any pictures or descriptions of a captured HP400 repainted in German markings (all the photos of captured HP400s I've seen so far still had the original (roundel) markings). Unless I can find some specific evidence that there actually was a captured HP400 that really looked like this one, I'm not comfortable proposing it in the "Historical" section. However, it will still be usable in historical missions folks might want to make with it, and shouldn't look out of place in such missions, so I would consider it semi-historical at least.
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#20 =J13=Emperor

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Posted 05 December 2010 - 12:02

This is true not O/400 and O/100 but I think it does not really matter.

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#21 hq_Jorri

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Posted 05 December 2010 - 12:09

By the time this skin is included in the game we probably have the Gotha anyway.

I like the skin, but I agree with Imp. I'd say offer it for mods on mode now as a stopgap solution and then we get the Gotha anyway.
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#22 Marco_._

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Posted 05 December 2010 - 12:30

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Handley Page 0/400 L’Amazone that mistakenly landed on a German airfield and was captured.
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#23 J99-Himmelhund

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Posted 05 December 2010 - 20:28

In psd/dds I cannot find the engines and the chassis. If there is a possibility this to paint.
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#24 B24_LIBERATOR

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Posted 05 December 2010 - 21:30

No, their not on the template, somewhere else.
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#25 1PL-Rahon-1Esk

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 23:04

Beautyful work Panther. Yes of course :)

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#26 Jaws2002

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Posted 09 December 2010 - 19:56

+1 Yes. The Germans can't drop bombs yet. This is a great idea…plus, I don't feel bad shooting one dressed like this with the Noop28. :mrgreen:
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#27 Panthercules

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 04:58

Poll concluded; thread locked.
Thanks for the votes!
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