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#41 SYN_Vander

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 10:52

Wow, look like this is going to be very good indeed!

Some extra (AI) two-seaters have to be released together with this though. I can't see how you can fly a German career in 1916/1917 and not see any enemy two-seater during any of the missions! Luckily the DFW had a long service record so it can be used over a long time period.
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#42 ST_ami7b5

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 11:03

… and make it a "to pay for" adon !

Seems that some things I'll never understand quite well…
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#43 NickM

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 11:12

Jason, this looks very promising indeed!

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#44 redcoat22

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 13:26

… and make it a "to pay for" adon !

Seems that some things I'll never understand quite well…

People developing ever better products in order to keep making money is a concept some people fail to grasp. I for one happily spend my money to buy products I enjoy, and would gladly keep paying to keep them in development.
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#45 WF2

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 13:40

Suggestion: Can these post of new improvements be posted like " stickies" or maybe a new permanent header? They do get lose in the thread section. Be great to have them Highly Visible for existing players and New comers to the game to see the continuing improvements.

Just a suggestion.
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#46 ST_ami7b5

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 13:54

People developing ever better products in order to keep making money is a concept some people fail to grasp. I for one happily spend my money to buy products I enjoy, and would gladly keep paying to keep them in development.

I have already spent my money on the product and also on all (but one) additional planes.
Maybe not as happily as you, but I did. Question is if a customer should suggest he wants to pay more.

Such an initiative should come from the seller, not from the buyer..
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#47 Viper69

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 14:02

looks like a LOT of work!
what forces me to repeat myself:
use the chance with such a significant new feature for the game and use this work in connection to release some AI "bread&butter" twoseaters (flyable one can still be sold seperatly) and make it a "to pay for" adon !

offline players will buy it because of the career mode, online players anyway as one have to have "always" the newest gameversion to be compatible…………..
schedule it for the X-mas time :)


as always only a personal opinion !

Thats fine for an expansion or a different genre or even theatre but this addition is to fill out the existing game to where it should have been at launch but couldnt be. Now if they release "ROF:the eastern front" or "ROF:Between the great wars" those in my opinion would be a pay addon.
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#48 WF2

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 14:03

Paying for this as an " Add-on " would stop this sim, cold in its tracks, sorry to say.

JMHO
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#49 Mogster

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 15:07

Agreed.

This career mode looks fantastic but it shouldn't be payware. I have all the aircraft, I've paid enough to Neoqb/777. I don't want to make too much of this, I'm happy with my purchases , but these are still features that should have been included on release.

We need at least a couple of early AI 2 seaters per side to be released with this career mode or I don't see how its going to work. I don't think anyone wants to be escorting Breguet 14s in 1916.
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#50 SYN_Vander

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 15:11

Agreed.

This career mode looks fantastic but it shouldn't be payware. I have all the aircraft, I've paid enough to Neoqb/777. I don't want to make too much of this, I'm happy with my purchases , but these are still features that should have been included on release.

We need at least a couple of early AI 2 seaters per side to be released with this career mode or I don't see how its going to work. I don't think anyone wants to be escorting Breguet 14s in 1916.

Let alone attacking them in your Eindecker! :)
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#51 Jason_Williams

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 15:40

Thank you Jason for an update. Waiting for relise. Just one question. I noted that on 1916 the the Centlal powers will fly on Fokker VII against DH2. Are you going to fix this? :roll:

Castro,

Please read my accompanying text above the pictures.

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#52 Jason_Williams

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 15:41

Agreed.

This career mode looks fantastic but it shouldn't be payware. I have all the aircraft, I've paid enough to Neoqb/777. I don't want to make too much of this, I'm happy with my purchases , but these are still features that should have been included on release.

We need at least a couple of early AI 2 seaters per side to be released with this career mode or I don't see how its going to work. I don't think anyone wants to be escorting Breguet 14s in 1916.

No one ever said the new Career would be payware. No need to even bring up the topic.

Jason
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#53 Jason_Williams

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 15:53

Wow, look like this is going to be very good indeed!

Some extra (AI) two-seaters have to be released together with this though. I can't see how you can fly a German career in 1916/1917 and not see any enemy two-seater during any of the missions! Luckily the DFW had a long service record so it can be used over a long time period.

Guys,

Even the cost and time it takes to develop even and AI model is large. Sensenman and Wolfpac are finding this out now as they try to bring their creations to ROF. And we have high standards in our models. They are very complex and take time, not to mention money.

The days of flight sims with 100+ flyable planes is over. And before anyone says Oleg will have 30+ flyable planes or whatever it is has to realize he had 7+ years to make them and the budget of two companies to pay for it. We don't have that luxury or budget yet.

But JUST to be clear, we will try to build you more two-seaters. We are working on a plan to accelerate that process, BUT nothing has been decided and when I know more I will post.

There will be holes in the plane-set that we will fill over time. Or would you rather we wait a few more months until we have those two-seaters built before we release the new Career? Hmmmmmm…. Vander my friend I give you the choice. Choose wisely as you will be answerable to the community.

So, please understand we totally hear you guys about the two-seaters. Nobody wants two-seaters more than I, but right now, the code to even properly support flyable two-seaters is still in development so relax, have a brew and watch some football. Go Chargers!

Vander give me your decision please. The team is waiting. :-)

Jason
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#54 Gimpy117

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 16:08

Hah, I like the last shot where you can buy a new personal aircraft :)

Alright I'll order one F-16
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#55 ST_ami7b5

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 16:19

Hah, I like the last shot where you can buy a new personal aircraft :)

Alright I'll order one F-16

For turn 'n' burn?

:lol:
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#56 SYN_Vander

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 16:24

Vander give me your decision please. The team is waiting. :-)

Jason

Oh, it's up to me now? :0 Cool, I'll let the community members know where to send their bribes! ;)

Seriously, I understand fully the catch 22 situation here: It's not an option to postpone the career option (actually, I asked for this myself ;) ) until there are more two-seaters. And releasing some AI two-seaters will probably not be a good idea without a proper career mode. In theory, we would then have to wait until every WW1 aircraft that ever flew was made for RoF!

I'd go for the road to get the career option in first, than develop flyable two-seaters that can make some money as well… I just like to bring up my personal frustration that's all!
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#57 ST_ami7b5

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 16:29

No one ever said the new Career would be payware. No need to even bring up the topic.

Jason

One or two members did bring it up …

It's good you made it clear now.

Once again, very good news from you. As an off-liner for now I am very pleased with the samples you've shown us.

Well done!
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#58 MCossack

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 17:53

Absolutely amazing!

In the „old good times” style, with attention to details, like the blackboard writing, newspaper(!) with some form-era advertisements, personal plane, maps, really nice!

Just the thing that the game was lacking from beginning!

And this excitement comes from a guy that will probably seldom play the campaign as I don’t like the idea of harming anyone in an organized manner (meaning: war), especially there above!

Really nice work! Congratulation!
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#59 SharpeXB

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 17:58

What I hope Career Mode has and what the other Single Player missions in this game desperately need is a way to save the game progress at any point. So far I don’t see a system of checkpoints or game saves in the SP campaign. The long immersive missions are great but if you can’t commit more than 40-60 minutes at a time to them they can’t be completed.
Please have game saves in Career Mode! It looks magnificent!
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#60 Tom-Cundall

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 17:59

relax, have a brew and watch some football. Go Chargers!

Ryan Matthews does look like a good replacement for LT - but I can't see the Chargers getting past the Colts in the playoffs especially without Jackson.
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#61 -Ginge-

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 19:02

Very good work so far Jason. You are on the way to a fantastic product. its already the best flight sim in my view, but this would make it really special if you can pull it off

I am very happy to pay you, so make more planes and all my money is yours :)
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#62 sturmkraehe

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 19:18

A W E S O M E !
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#63 redcoat22

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 20:23

No one ever said the new Career would be payware. No need to even bring up the topic.

Jason

One or two members did bring it up …

It's good you made it clear now.

Actually nobody said it was supposed to be payware, certainly not 777.. some bloke just suggested it be payware to make more money and fuel further development; while you replied that you didn't understand that principal and preferred that a product was complete upon arrival and then dropped from future development unless it is done freely. *shrugs
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#64 DidNotFinish

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 20:23

The days of flight sims with 100+ flyable planes is over.

Sadly, that is true. Il-2 seems to have been the golden days of 100+ planes in a simulator. Il-2 was the first to do it, and the last. :geek:
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#65 VonFear

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 20:24

Now that looks as good if not better then the Red Baron 3D career!

Can't wait.
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#66 =Fifi=

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 20:43

The days of flight sims with 100+ flyable planes is over.

Sad sad sad :(
Did you mean we'll never have the all WW1 planeset?
It's over 100 planes ;)
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#67 Brutal_Baron

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 20:46

That is outstanding work in progess. :o The developers are right on target. We all here salute the ROF team for the really hard great work and time that they put into improving ROF. ROF will become the new "gold standard" for bench marking other sims. I am really looking foward to the release of the career mode. :)
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#68 NickM

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 21:02

And before anyone says Oleg will have 30+ flyable planes or whatever it is has to realize he had 7+ years to make them and the budget of two companies to pay for it. We don't have that luxury or budget yet.

I'll take the 18 brilliant flyables I have now in RoF against the 30 brilliant flyables nobody has from Oleg any day ;).

Cheers,

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#69 Smudge

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 21:15

This has got me REALLY excited! I think some wee came out! honest!!
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#70 VonHelton

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 21:44

This has got me REALLY excited! I think some wee came out! honest!!

TMI…..

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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#71 ST_ami7b5

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Posted 03 September 2010 - 09:11

No one ever said the new Career would be payware. No need to even bring up the topic.

Jason

One or two members did bring it up …

It's good you made it clear now.

Actually nobody said it was supposed to be payware, certainly not 777.. some bloke just suggested it be payware to make more money and fuel further development; while you replied that you didn't understand that principal and preferred that a product was complete upon arrival and then dropped from future development unless it is done freely. *shrugs

Non-existing problem solved…
Peace. ;)
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#72 redcoat22

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Posted 03 September 2010 - 12:59

I'll take the 18 brilliant flyables I have now in RoF against the 30 brilliant flyables nobody has from Oleg any day ;).


Nick

Huzzah!
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#73 Frankyboy

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Posted 03 September 2010 - 13:06

i would be very carefull to bury SoW:BoB so fast !

anyway, there is no reason why a WWI sim AND a WWII sim cant be around at the same time………….
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#74 Brutal_Baron

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Posted 03 September 2010 - 14:18

i would be very carefull to bury SoW:BoB so fast !

anyway, there is no reason why a WWI sim AND a WWII sim cant be around at the same time………….


I totally agree. I enjoy both type of sims. It is like only being able to eat either a hamburger or a hotdog. :lol: If you are hungary enough and can afford it, why not enjoy both. I will.
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#75 Closter

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Posted 03 September 2010 - 14:33

Cool after all those years a career that remember the rb3d great one.
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#76 hq_Jorri

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Posted 03 September 2010 - 14:40

If you are hungary enough

I am never Hungary enough but if you're looking for someone who is, you might want to try Reflected? :lol:
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#77 Mogster

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Posted 03 September 2010 - 16:28

i would be very carefull to bury SoW:BoB so fast !

anyway, there is no reason why a WWI sim AND a WWII sim cant be around at the same time………….


I totally agree. I enjoy both type of sims. It is like only being able to eat either a hamburger or a hotdog. :lol: If you are hungary enough and can afford it, why not enjoy both. I will.

Life's pretty good in sim land imo.

If just a few years ago someone has said that in 2010 we'd have a new WW1 sim under development (ROF), new modern tech sim series under development (ED, DCS series) and a new WW2 sim coming up to release (Maddox) I'd have been very happy. Apparenly MS also has the FS series back under development. Pretty good for a dead genre :D
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#78 SJK

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Posted 03 September 2010 - 16:32

I'm looking forward to shooting down aristocrats.
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#79 Voidhunger

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Posted 03 September 2010 - 16:34

Absolutely wonderful! Certain is that I can´t wait till end of the year!
you should work harder ;) No weekend off ;)
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#80 ST_ami7b5

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Posted 03 September 2010 - 16:40

I'm looking forward to shooting down aristocrats.

:lol:
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