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#1 WF2

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Posted 05 August 2010 - 19:27

… in RoF, hopefully.

The Ansaldo S.V.A.5

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Specifications SVA.5

General characteristics

* Crew: one pilot
* Length: 8.10 m (26 ft 7 in)
* Wingspan: 9.10 m (29 ft 10 in)
* Height: 2.65 m (8 ft 8 in)
* Wing area: 24.2 m² (260 ft²)
* Empty weight: 680 kg (1,500 lb)
* Gross weight: 1,050 kg (2,320 lb)
* Powerplant: 1 × SPA 6A, 150 kW (200 hp)

Performance

* Maximum speed: 230 km/h (140 mph)
* Endurance: 3 hours
* Service ceiling: 6,000 m (19,700 ft)
* Rate of climb: 5 m/s (980 ft/min)

Armament

* 2 × syncrhonised .303 Vickers machine gun
* up to 90 kg (200 lb) of bombs

Enjoy …… !
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#2 =Fifi=

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Posted 05 August 2010 - 20:13

…and on the Alps map… :D …maybe one day!
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#3 Viper69

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Posted 05 August 2010 - 20:20

Looks like an even uglier SE5 which I didnt think was possible.
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#4 =IRFC=CpDarling

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Posted 05 August 2010 - 20:51

Some typical Italian flair going on there.
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#5 Tom-Cundall

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Posted 05 August 2010 - 22:03

Looks like an even uglier SE5 which I didnt think was possible.

:) :) :)
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#6 JoeCrow

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Posted 05 August 2010 - 22:07

Looks like an even uglier SE5 which I didnt think was possible.

Beauty, my friend, is in the eye of the beholder :D .
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#7 =MFC=Gunloon

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Posted 05 August 2010 - 22:19

Looks like an even uglier SE5 which I didnt think was possible.

UGLY???

Philistine! Visigoth! Infidel KNAVE!

I spent hundreds of hours in the late 80s building a free flight scale Ansaldo and I think she's a lovely, graceful bird.

The model was a CO2 powered 17 inch span version built from plans by Pat Daily of the DC Maxecuters. If I still had a left hand that worked I'd be working on a slightly larger one for electric R/C with a brushless motor.

Ugly you say? Pistols at dawn, blackguard! (well, maybe not now, but some dawn once I get a powered wheelchair so I can maneuver a bit… :lol: )

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#8 kirock7

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Posted 05 August 2010 - 23:09

Interesting.
Are those fuel tanks on the top of the wings? Radiators?
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#9 =MFC=Gunloon

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Posted 05 August 2010 - 23:36

Interesting.
Are those fuel tanks on the top of the wings? Radiators?

Fuel tanks. Nice, reliable low tech gravity feed.

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#10 J2_squid

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Posted 05 August 2010 - 23:51

Some typical Italian flair going on there.

Well said Darling.

Once I owned and alfa romeo. Beautiful machine, like an italian fashion model.

About as high maintinance too. Since then I bought german, both car wise and ROF. May not be as pretty but do the job asked of them. ;)

What an incredible plane. Yes lets hope one day :)
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#11 =MFC=Gunloon

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 00:06

Once I owned and alfa romeo. Beautiful machine, like an italian fashion model.

About as high maintinance too. Since then I bought german, both car wise and ROF. May not be as pretty but do the job asked of them. ;)

I bet you had fun though, Squid. Back when I was flight instructing one of the CFIs had one, and it was a gorgeous machine.

Years later I bought A Mazda Miata. They were designed by an American who knew his trade to have the look and feel of classic roadsters with the typical reliability of Japanese engineered cars. Loved that machine :)

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#12 J2_squid

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 00:18

Heh,

Although engineering is totally to alien to me, I do have the ablity to spot something that is "put together".

I guess thats why I love these old planes. You can see the designer thinking when you look around the cockpit or study the lines.

They are works of art, and like my old Alfa, I miss them. :)
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#13 =MFC=Gunloon

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 00:36

Heh,

Although engineering is totally to alien to me, I do have the ablity to spot something that is "put together".

I guess thats why I love these old planes. You can see the designer thinking when you look around the cockpit or study the lines.

They are works of art, and like my old Alfa, I miss them. :)

You'd have loved my old neighborhood block. The high rise building across the street from me had two car showrooms on the ground floor, one was a Rolls-Royce dealer, which was cool, but the other was a Ferrari showroom.

Back in the 70s the guys working there were very tolerant of me looking over the cars, they quickly picked up that I was very careful and respectful of these awesome machines. I can still almost smell the scent of leather of a brand new Dino they had prominently displayed and which I occasionally was permitted to sit in.

It was a delight to be around on one of the infrequent occasions when one was driven…there is nothing, and I mean NOTHING like the sound of one of Enzo's motors winding up!

I hope if we get an ROF Ansaldo they can get an accurate sound sample for its SPA 6 engine…mmmm…

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#14 J.j.

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 01:20

What about this one? :D

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#15 =MFC=Gunloon

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 01:40

What about this one?

SQUIRREL!


Or in this case:

SPAD 7!

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#16 WF2

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 12:33

RoF D.VII ….. should sound like that!

Hey, Gunloon …. how was the show and ORA in general? I will be there for the R/C Model meet this September.
I heard things changed quite a-bit.

Anyone notice how slow they fly from the perspective at ground level?

Cheers.
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#17 Viper69

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 13:24

I did notice how slow especially the D7 looked. It is no wonder why flying at that altitude would be suicide. Somone with a ground mounted vickers could shred a plane moving that speed.
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#18 Kudlius

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 13:36

One day I said to my self not to buy anything produced in Italy.

But it will be not real plane and not from Italy, so OK:)
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#19 WF2

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 14:23

I did notice how slow especially the D7 looked. It is no wonder why flying at that altitude would be suicide. Somone with a ground mounted vickers could shred a plane moving that speed.

….. MvR comes to mind? :lol:
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#20 J2_squid

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 14:25

I hear what you say about a ferrair engine. My old boss used to drive a Enzo. Whilst it isnt my favourite ferrari, the sound of it was incredible. Nothing sounds like a ferrari.
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#21 Masaq

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 22:10

Gunloon"]
Interesting.
Are those fuel tanks on the top of the wings? Radiators?

Fuel tanks. Nice, reliable low tech gravity feed.

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Nice way of getting fuel poured onto your head as well. Bloody lethal!
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#22 =MFC=Gunloon

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 23:13

Masaq"]

Nice way of getting fuel poured onto your head as well. Bloody lethal!

Very true…an incendiary shampoo will tend to ruin one's day.

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#23 =MFC=Gunloon

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 23:26

Hey, Gunloon …. how was the show and ORA in general? I will be there for the R/C Model meet this September.
I heard things changed quite a-bit.

Anyone notice how slow they fly from the perspective at ground level?

Cheers.

That was J.j.'s link, I'm afraid. Haven't been to Rhinebeck myself since the late 90s, and after losing the last of my ability to walk this year I doubt I'll see it in person again. I do have the satisfaction of attending a bunch of times in the 70s and 80s, and meeting and spending a bit of time with Cole Palen several times makes for priceless memories :)

BTW- the ORA pilots are very competent at low speed flybys, they're justifiably proud of all the work they put in keeping the old kites flying and want folks to be able to see them in all their glory!

Hope you have a ball on your visit!

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#24 sturmkraehe

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 22:33

where are its guns?
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#25 =MFC=Gunloon

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 22:44

where are its guns?

Gun. Singular. Generally mounted on the right side (though sometimes on the left, as my model had) just below the cabane struts. Many had no guns, being intended for photo recon work.

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#26 hq_Jorri

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 22:52

Beautiful machine!
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#27 WF2

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 02:44

Opp's …. sorry there Gunloon. So I will redirect my question to J.j.
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#28 WF2

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 02:46

where are its guns?

Armament

* 2 × synchronized .303 Vickers machine gun
* up to 90 kg (200 lb) of bombs

That's what the spec's say and she was very fast too!
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#29 Viper69

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 13:51

Everything is fast when plummeting to your death :)
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#30 J.j.

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 18:19

Huh?
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#31 Viper69

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 18:39

Huh what? WF2 said it was fast, I said yeah everything is fast when you are falling. Was supposed to be funny but obviously not, if I have to explain it.
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#32 J.j.

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 18:41

I don't understand. I see my name written, but I don't understand the sense of the sentences around it.
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#33 Viper69

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 18:43

You lost me.
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#34 J.j.

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 22:42

So we are two! I'm lost too.

Whatever…

About what we were discussing? Oh, yeah…

SPAD VII :mrgreen:
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#35 Hellbender

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Posted 10 August 2010 - 17:39

Lovely plane!

Looks very Italian indeed.



So we are two! I'm lost too.

Whatever…

About what we were discussing? Oh, yeah…


This is now a Hanriot HD.1 thread.


Did your heart love till now? Forswear it, sight! For you ne'er saw true beauty till this night.


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#36 J.j.

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Posted 10 August 2010 - 18:04

I want them both :D
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#37 Hellbender

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Posted 10 August 2010 - 18:15

I want them both :D


Yes, but you want the Hanriot more.

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#38 sturmkraehe

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Posted 10 August 2010 - 23:25

And this?

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#39 J.j.

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Posted 10 August 2010 - 23:29

Berk :)

If the Hanriot HD 1 comes with a proper map of Belgian front, I'm ready to have it before the SPAD VII.
Unfortunately, without such a map, it will be of a limited use.
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#40 =MFC=Gunloon

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 01:05

I'd forgotten about that Hanriot. Lovely, and I bet it'd confirm the old saw 'if it looks right, it'll fly right.'

Another good one for the wish list!

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