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#241 SQSN

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 05:42

So you are already building one? ;) hehe, couldn't resist!
No comments. ;)

Well, except, may be one: I don't chose what to make. So, I hope, there are no hard feelings about the Roland.
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#242 hq_Jorri

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 07:09

The Roland might not have been used in great numbers, but it's an iconic plane and I'm very happy to have it in RoF. Plus it's very well made :S!:

Only thing is that the rib lines might be too distinct, especially on the tail.

Hm, and thanks for the hint on the Hanriot :D
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#243 SYN_Vander

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 07:54

I think maybe SQSN is referring to the Roland that was created in 3dsmax by SYN_Per. He was making it for his own pleasure, so no problems there.

I'll stick to ships and vehicles for now. I have seen an Rof aircraft model in 3dsmax and it's a bit too daunting for me! :) I don't think most people truly understand how ridiculously complex and detailed the damage / lod models are!
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#244 O_WolfPac

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 08:12

SYN_Vander , now that was a understatement, if ever i saw one :D
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#245 M.H

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 08:15

How's the model coming along ? :S!:
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#246 hq_Jorri

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 08:26

I think maybe SQSN is referring to the Roland that was created in 3dsmax by SYN_Per. He was making it for his own pleasure, so no problems there.

Once again I misinterpret :oops:. Sorry!
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#247 SQSN

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 17:11

I think maybe SQSN is referring to the Roland that was created in 3dsmax by SYN_Per.

Exactly. And just in case this situation would repeat itself in a near future. ;)

He was making it for his own pleasure, so no problems there.

Still I can understand, if the author was somewhat disappointed, that it wasn't his model adopted for official release.

I don't think most people truly understand how ridiculously complex and detailed the damage / lod models are!
And you didn't even mention the animations - real PITA.
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#248 SYN_Per

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 18:42

No dissapointments here mate! Just did that for my own amusment.
Besides the Roland we have now in RoF is very nice, so thx!

GL with the HD1, whoever makes it!

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#249 NewGuy_

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 19:06

I think maybe SQSN is referring to the Roland that was created in 3dsmax by SYN_Per.

Exactly. And just in case this situation would repeat itself in a near future. ;)

Then I am going to keep up with learning the Nieuport 17, learning how to dogfight, and learning about the Belgium air service, just in case we get a HD1. ;)

:S!: MJ
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#250 Bf-110

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 21:14

The Roland is a beauty!Fancied that plane 6 years B.R.
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#251 O_WolfPac

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 04:31

SYN_Per , Thank you :)
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#252 pollux18

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 12:03

User Manuel 1.030b :D


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#253 NewGuy_

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 15:37

User Manuel 1.030b :D


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For me, the introduction of the Hanriot HD-1 is the most exciting add-on news since the introduction of the SPAD VII add-on. I am getting the Fe2b and the Strutter to support the continued development of ROF, but I am getting the Hanriot HD-1 just for me. :P I anticipate that I am going to use the Nieuport 17, SPAD VII, and Hanriot HD-1 a whole lot over the next several years, especially if the team eventually makes an Italian Alpine map.

:S!: MJ

P.S. I would like to thank the team for selecting the Hanriot HD-1 for development! :D
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#254 gavagai

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 15:47

I wonder if the HD1 will feel more like a Sopwith or more like a Nieuport. It definitely looks Sopwith-inspired, so I'm guessing it might be kind of like the Pup?
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#255 10ps

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 15:59

I think the same. A more french Pup. :D
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#256 NewGuy_

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 16:09

I wonder if the HD1 will feel more like a Sopwith or more like a Nieuport. It definitely looks Sopwith-inspired, so I'm guessing it might be kind of like the Pup?

Yes, that is a really great question. From what I have read about the Hanriot HD-1, I get the impression that the HD-1 will have the forward speed and climb of a Nieuport 17 and will have the forgiving handling characteristics of a Pup. The HD-1 metal tube frame construction and Sopwith-like wing design may make the HD-1 relatively rugged, when compared to the N17. For instance, we might be able to dive the HD-1 wtih greater confidence than we would when diving the N17. We may also be able to throw the HD-1 all over the place, without worrying about ripping off vee strut sesquiplane wings.
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#257 LukeFF

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 16:32

Glad to see this plane is being added to the game! :)
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#258 150GCT_Veltro

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 17:37

I wonder if the HD1 will feel more like a Sopwith or more like a Nieuport. It definitely looks Sopwith-inspired, so I'm guessing it might be kind of like the Pup?

Yes, that is a really great question. From what I have read about the Hanriot HD-1, I get the impression that the HD-1 will have the forward speed and climb of a Nieuport 17 and will have the forgiving handling characteristics of a Pup. The HD-1 metal tube frame construction and Sopwith-like wing design may make the HD-1 relatively rugged, when compared to the N17. For instance, we might be able to dive the HD-1 wtih greater confidence than we would when diving the N17. We may also be able to throw the HD-1 all over the place, without worrying about ripping off vee strut sesquiplane wings.

Agree.

It should be a sort of mix between B&Z and T&B.
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#259 Hellbender

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 18:26

Nieuport 23 with better visibility according to the Belgians, I'll look for the exact quote in Above Flanders Fields.

In any case, many pilots including Jan Olieslagers liked it better than the Sopwith Camel, although it had poor rudder authority. Willy Coppens was gifted a larger HD.2 rudder when he visited Hanriot's factory.

I predict that it will outturn the Nieuport 28, outclimb the 11, run down the 17 and be inferior in every way to the Camel.

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#260 N28_Uberplane

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 18:51

WE ARE GETTING THE HANRIOT!

I would open up another hundred page thread about it but I can't be asked.
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#261 SQSN

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 19:34

The HD-1 metal tube frame construction.

HD-1 fuselage frame behind the cockpit was wooden with bracing wires. Within cockpit area horizontal wooden spars were connected with mix of wooden planks and metal tubes.
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#262 Dr.Zebra

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 19:41

… liked it better than the Sopwith Camel, although it had poor rudder authority. Willy Coppens was gifted a larger HD.2 rudder when he visited Hanriot's factory.
fieldmod *gasp* fieldmod!!



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#263 Bullets

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 21:08

Im scared this is going to be another extremely over powered entente plane for us to run in our albatross's from… :cry:
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#264 Dressedwings

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 21:10

If its like the N17 than you wont have to worry about a thing.
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#265 Zeppcomander

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 21:38

I dont know about its speed, but it shure as heck cant out turn a DR.I :lol:
Remember if the plane HE’s flying is faster than yours he can only run from you. :x
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#266 Dr.Zebra

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 22:21

Remember if the plane HE’s flying is faster than yours he can only run from you…

but the problems are those flipfloppers that constantly change their mind, running, comin back, running ;=)
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#267 10ps

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 22:29

French maniacs… :roll:

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#268 Zeppcomander

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 22:31

If your flying a slow Dr.I thats a good thing. ;)
Then they CAN catch you and when they do, no matter what their flying, you can out maneuver them and tear them to pieces.

:x Next. :x Next. *sigh* NEXT :x :x NEEEEEXT!!! :x :x :x :x
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#269 N28_Uberplane

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 22:33

Not if the guy in the fast plane can shoot. You'd be dead before you said ne
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#270 Zeppcomander

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 22:36

Or if he happens to be flying a camel. ;)

:x Run, RUN! No I cant take him oops no I cant runnnn! :xx:
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#271 Bf-110

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 23:10

Really looking forward to see how it will handle too.The N.17 is not an easy plane to fly.It tends to turn too much when you're pulling the nose up.
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#272 NewGuy_

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 23:10

The HD-1 metal tube frame construction.

HD-1 fuselage frame behind the cockpit was wooden with bracing wires. Within cockpit area horizontal wooden spars were connected with mix of wooden planks and metal tubes.

Yes, that is a more accurate description of the construction.
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#273 NewGuy_

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 23:15

Glad to see this plane is being added to the game! :)

+1 :D
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#274 Dutch2

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 06:07

Nieuport 23 with better visibility according to the Belgians, I'll look for the exact quote in Above Flanders Fields.

In any case, many pilots including Jan Olieslagers liked it better than the Sopwith Camel, although it had poor rudder authority. Willy Coppens was gifted a larger HD.2 rudder when he visited Hanriot's factory.

I predict that it will outturn the Nieuport 28, outclimb the 11, run down the 17 and be inferior in every way to the Camel.

:lol:

I think this was also because the Camel was a tricky machine to fly, lots of accidents happen when you had not fully the experience/training to taming this wild horse. And I believe those experience pilots always think that they could fly everything blind, like Otto Kissenberth.
But fact is, we get it and I do hope it is made by the topic starter and will sell a lot.
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#275 Avimimus

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 16:05

So how different was the Italian version?
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#276 gavagai

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 16:14

I predict that it will outturn the Nieuport 28, outclimb the 11, run down the 17 and be inferior in every way to the Camel.

If it could really climb to 3km in 11 minutes, then its rate of climb will be better than the Sopwith Prototype. Additionally, the HD1's 184km/h is a bit faster than production Camels with 130hp Clergets.
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#277 navair2

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 16:14

Glad to see this plane is being added to the game! :)

+1 as well. :D

French Pup?…d'accord. Tres interessant, n'est-ce pas? 8-) I look forward to trying it out. 8-)
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#278 NewGuy_

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 18:31

I predict that it will outturn the Nieuport 28, outclimb the 11, run down the 17 and be inferior in every way to the Camel.

If it could really climb to 3km in 11 minutes, then its rate of climb will be better than the Sopwith Prototype. Additionally, the HD1's 184km/h is a bit faster than production Camels with 130hp Clergets.

Did the HD-1 have a top speed of 184 kp/h? I thought that the HD-1 was no faster than the N17? I have to check the HD1 profile Womenfly2 posted. I think that the author(s) of the publication did not have a source for the 114 mph figure. Then again, I will be happy as heck if the HD-1 was faster than the Nieuport 17 and has a top speed of 114 mph.

This was my best guess for the plausible performance of the HD-1, based on what I have read, so far.


Engine 9 cyl. rotary Le Rhone 9J
Power (h.p.): 110

1000 m — 3 min. 06 sec.
2000 m — 6 min. 43 sec.
3000 m — 11 min. 34 sec.
4000 m — 19 min. 23 sec.
5000 m — 48 min. 00 sec.

Maximum airspeed
(IAS: km/h) sea level — 165
1000 m — 155
2000 m — 145
3000 m — 132
4000 m — 117
5000 m — 95

Service ceiling (m) 5974
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#279 10ps

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 19:00

This plane might just get me back into flying RoF.
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#280 Bf-110

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 22:31

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